Right Click Disable?

Zilly wrote in post #2502598
intresting way round hiding the page sorce just hit the return button a couple of hundred times when your at the top of the html itll all disaperar somewhere down the bottom

Yeah but even then the scroll bar will let people know there is something down below.

yea but when its a fair old way down the page it takes a while to find and most people dont even register the scroll bar found it quite effective on my site when testing on people

You can disable Print Screen
You can disable printing of pages
You can disable Clipboard
You can disable Right Click and Left Click
You can disable seeing the image by using a transparent image over the top.
You can encrypt the .html so users cannot do it

You can disable most things however the majority only work in Internet Explorer you can use other image software to bypass it, you can wip out a digital camera and just take a photo of the image on your screen or even easier you can look in your computers cache of the site and pick it out!

However this plan if all our implemented effectivly will stop i would say 75% of the average internet user from getting at your images, most users use Internet explorer and most have no idea about source files.

Do what you think is best, think who your members/customers etc our and try and stop the majority.

Check out my gallery, i implement most of the above and it stops quite a few of my members who have not much idea on using the internet. I know its easy to bypass they dont!

Big WIll wrote in post #2503725
You can disable seeing the image by using a transparent image over the top.

Hmm whats the point in putting them on the internet then

Big WIll wrote in post #2503725
You can disable Print Screen
You can disable printing of pages
You can disable Clipboard
You can disable Right Click and Left Click
You can disable seeing the image by using a transparent image over the top.
You can encrypt the .html so users cannot do it

Actually, the methods you used on your website don't all work.

I'll go through a routine of methods to see which work in Internet Explorer 7:

- Ok, right click obviously won't work, and left click doesn't help in any way either.
- Instead, I try Print Screen, which is supposed to be disabled. It worked fine, I already have your image in photoshop if I want it. But I'll go through more methods just to check. (And by the way, the script that should be preventing both this and the clipboard from working created a security warning on my computer asking if I wanted to allow it. I obviously declined, as would most other people.)
- I click and drag your image onto the tabs in I.E. 7, but it's a transparent gif, so it's a background image, that method won't work.
- I change my internet settings to print backgrounds and images, and go to print, hum and unfriendly message, that's not very nice. So instead, I save the website, delete the <link rel> line of code, and print it again...but printing just the image itself is easier.
- I go to view source, I found the image in about 10 seconds by searching for the words above the image and copying the table's background image. Now I can save the image, print the image, copy the image, do anything I want with it, the HTML doesn't seem to be encrypted at all.
- Finally, I go to Page > Web Page Privacy Policy. It shows a list of every image and every URL on the page. I look for something that looks distinctly like the image and find "IMG_6376" in one of the file names. So I copy that url, paste into the browser, and I have the image once more.

Now just for good measure, I open the same page into firefox..

First, the right click and left click both still work, though an annoying popup comes up everytime I do. Now I also have a plugin for my firefox called "Web Developer", so I turn off javascript and left click, right click, and everything else all work fine now. I also disable background images and watch the image disappear, which lets me know what I have to do.

- Right click on the image > View Background Image, and I have it already
- Alternatively, I view source, once again, I have the image in seconds.
- Of course, Print Screen still works so I can use that method as well
- Printing won't work again, but I can save the page and print from there after deleting the annoying link rel line again, but since it was so easy to get the image anyway, I could just print from there.

Should I try opera? Sure why not.

Well the right and left click scripts aren't working in opera for whatever reason, but just in case I disable javascript.

- Good ol' view source never lets me down, I have the image in seconds
- Printing won't work again, but I can save it again and print it from there again..
- If I wanted, I could also add my own stylesheet to employ on your website (this can be done with firefox too) which would disable to transparent image that blocks the background image, but anyone who can do this could also just view source
- I also know for a fact that there are web development addons for Opera which would allow getting the image as fast as firefox did, but I'm not a big opera user so I don't use one.

Anyway, that was fun, but the real point is...if somebody wants to save something from your site...they will.

If you don't want people saving things, the ONLY, and I mean ONLY solution is to remove it from the internet. There's nothing wrong with people saving an image because they like it. I like plenty of images and save them, but I don't necissarily want to buy a print of it, and I definately don't contemplate selling super super low resolution prints for profit. Annoying scripts which prevent right click, left click, highlighting, saving, and printing do not do any good. All they do is annoy an innocent user who is a potential customer. If I wasn't a complete computer nerd, a security warning from a website saying it's trying to access something would make me leave immediately! And right click scripts, and rude printing scripts probably do the same.

So please, to anyone using scripts like this, they aren't doing you any good, they're not doing your customers any good, and they aren't preventing anyone from saving things, so please, PLEASE remove them.

taygull wrote in post #2491756
I'm serious I will change all the settings on my site if you can tell me one good reason to have the right click option on when you are viewing my simpleviewer gallery

I have read through all the posts and agree with most things said before. Especially the fact that is it very annoying to get to a site and try to right click only to find that it is disabled. Now, I have not seen it mentioned before since all conversation is with saving the image file, but I usually right click on a photo that is not in a flash slideshow presentation to view the EXIF information. I'll admit, I'm still learning as a photographer (always ) and when I see something that I would like to try and need the EXIF data, I right-click on the photo. I pretty much don't even waste my time trying to email someone to ask how its done unless I know they are on this board. My 2cents anyway.

Not wanting to address any of the rhetoric in this thread I will say the following. If someone saves the webpage to their computer they have the file. If somebody loads your site into their browser they have the image. If somebody searches for the filename in their temp cache they have the image. If you are stupid, or lazy, or ignorant and have lax security protocols then they have your image. This morning I noticed about 6 members here who have totally insecure webpages- accidentally. If you allow people to navigate your directories in their browser they can have all of your files at once. If you allow people to access your .css files, javascript files, or have a weak ftp password they have your files. I could go on and on but why?

At some point in time "the average joe", yes meaning you because the majority of people are average joes; hence the name, will be able to say I want that image. Then, the average joe will go to his cache and download your images. Can you tell I don't like the phrase average joe yet? I have a very good friend named Joe. Also please excuse my blatant use of the words "you" and "I". I'm addressing a hypothetical person.

Where the problem lies is in image quality. Will there be a day when people have 42 inch computer screens? Yes. Will there be a day when d\u speeds will be in excess of 1,000 mbps? Yes. What this means is that in the future if you want to post a "normal" quality image it will have to be print worthy. It's mathematics, really, that dictate this. Exponential technological growth is not going away any time soon. If it reaaaaly make you feel safe inside you can disable right click. Otherwise just accept the potential loss, watermark, watermark, and watermark.

Soho

Even with a watermark, it's impossible to protect an image. There are tons of methods of getting rid of watermarks (and I believe even some programs that can do so). So I'll say it again. If you don't want someone to save your image, don't put it on the internet.

I leave all my images for the most part unwatermarked, and (except on size-limited forums, etc.) with a maximum height or width of 1024 pixels. This can't even print to a decent size with decent resolution, but paranoid photographers often have their images at an even smaller 200 pixels maximum width or height. Me, with a large screen resolution of 2560x1024, and others with similar large screen resolutions, can barely even see the photograph. So what's the point?

3Turner wrote in post #2504454
but I usually right click on a photo that is not in a flash slideshow presentation to view the EXIF information.

That's interesting. I've been trying to figure out a way to read exif data without installing something like Opanda. Can I ask which browser has this ability to read exif data using right click? Thanks

About theft prevention, I've said it before - as long as browsers cache images - there's no foolproof way (see alfadark's test results). In fact, browser makers seem to be going in the direction of making it easier to save images from the net (legitimate = share pictures; illegitimate = steal pictures ... haha yin and yang again )

kckong wrote in post #2506169
That's interesting. I've been trying to figure out a way to read exif data without installing something like Opanda. Can I ask which browser has this ability to read exif data using right click? Thanks

About theft prevention, I've said it before - as long as browsers cache images - there's no foolproof way (see alfadark's test results). In fact, browser makers seem to be going in the direction of making it easier to save images from the net (legitimate = share pictures; illegitimate = steal pictures ... haha yin and yang again )

I believe the only way to view exif is by using an addon like Opanda, that's what I use.

And indeed, browsers are making it easier, because they want users to be aware of what is going on in a website, rather than hiding it, allowing the possibility for advertisements and harmful scripts to find their way onto computers.

Firefox users can always use the Tools > Page Info > Media panel to see a list of all images, etc. on a page - there's even a handy save as button.

tommykjensen wrote in post #2484320
If the image is displayed on screen it can be saved. For example with print screen.

In my opinion disabling right click is useless and just annoying for most users.

Totally agree, disabling right click is just a waste of time, if you don't want anybody to copy your poor quailty web image just don't publish it.

There are several extensions for Firefox, personally I use Fxif, this give just a simple amount of data but know that some other exif Extensions will give a very comprehensive list including what custom function are set .

http://ted.mielczarek.​org/code/mozilla/fxif/

whiteflyer wrote in post #2507495
Totally agree, disabling right click is just a waste of time, if you don't want anybody to copy your poor quailty web image just don't publish it.


There are several extensions for Firefox, personally I use Fxif, this give just a simple amount of data but know that some other exif Extensions will give a very comprehensive list including what custom function are set .

http://ted.mielczarek.​org/code/mozilla/fxif/

Well I meant for Internet Explorer, since it doesn't use plugins.

Firefox has a large variety of addons available for this type of thing.

whiteflyer wrote in post #2507495
There are several extensions for Firefox, personally I use Fxif, this give just a simple amount of data but know that some other exif Extensions will give a very comprehensive list including what custom function are set .

http://ted.mielczarek.​org/code/mozilla/fxif/

And when you have fxif add-on installed, do you still access the data using right click or through the browser's menu bar? Hope you don't mind me asking 'cos I have no firefox experience Might consider it

kckong,
As alfadark said, I have Opanda installed and that's what I use to view EXIF info. There may be other programs out there as alternatives, but I have yet to find one...really I have not searched for any other...kinda lazy