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Jan 04, 2007 21:22 |  #1

Shot on 12/30/2006. Band : Maverick @ the Masquerade in Atlanta.

Over the summer I shot these guys senior formals for their school yearbook. I ran into their guitarist recently and he was talking about they needed a photographer. I got invited to the show, they got me an all access pass and turned me loose. They've since gotten their image cd's and love them. I'm shooting their next show on the 28th.

Here are 2 of the 500+ shots.

20D : ISO 3200, 1/50 , f/6.3
580 : - 1/3
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Jan 04, 2007 21:27 |  #2

Welcome aboard and welcome to the world of music photography.

Both shots look a little soft or out of focus to me - good effort though with the kit lens and excellent use of the flash to avoid the washed out look. You might like to try playing around with a faster shutter speed and if your budget allows look for a faster lens than the kit.


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Jan 05, 2007 10:59 |  #3

dave13 wrote in post #2490817 (external link)
Shot on 12/30/2006. Band : Maverick @ the Masquerade in Atlanta.

Over the summer I shot these guys senior formals for their school yearbook. I ran into their guitarist recently and he was talking about they needed a photographer. I got invited to the show, they got me an all access pass and turned me loose. They've since gotten their image cd's and love them. I'm shooting their next show on the 28th.

Here are 2 of the 500+ shots.

20D : ISO 3200, 1/50 , f/6.3
580 : - 1/3
18-55 kit lens.

a little soft/hazy. what are you able to charge to shoot?


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Jan 05, 2007 11:41 |  #4

i like number 2, shame most of guitar neck and head is cut out, but really good expresion, i would take out the mic in the corner cuz you cant crop more otherwise itll be way to noisy unless you B|W it? lights look they were ok, but if you wanna carry on with this type of photography, you really need better Glass.
Excellent effort tho.
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Jan 05, 2007 12:55 as a reply to  @ livewire-photography.com's post |  #5

ah, the masquerade. it's gotta be dark in there. esp with the kit lens. however, the flash seems to be used well. a couple of points made around here are no flash - i agree with this. and don't cut off guitar heads - i mostly agree with this.

the fstops need to be open a lot which would allow you to lower the iso.

but its a great start and i hope you shot lots more music!


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Jan 05, 2007 13:47 |  #6

i know the particular slant around here is not flash-friendly, and i shoot ambient light as much as humanly possible, but i've definitely seen plenty of good shots w/ flash too. it's a tool, just like a fast lens is, and sometimes there is really no other alternative.

#2 is the better of the photos for the reasons James has posted.


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Jan 05, 2007 16:30 |  #7

Yeah...me too...I like # one cause of the action, composition, framing and even the colors...the 1/50th shutter speed is just too slow to get action on stage...rarely ever do i get a keeper, shot under one sixtieth, with a short lens...save, save, save, for quality glass, and buy once...

Number two, is pretty good, composition and color wise...even the framing is reasonable, minus the guitar neck, which is always tough to fit into the photo...The softness here might also be a direct result of camera shake...


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Jan 05, 2007 21:51 |  #8

thelightofsound wrote in post #2493811 (external link)
ah, the masquerade. it's gotta be dark in there.

You have no idea. :) The walls, black. Ceiling, black. Floor, dark wood. Light? It vanishes. I could have shot it with a wider lens with a faster ss, but would have traded something resembling relative sharpness for a very shallow dof, which after a few test shots of the opening band, was just too shallow.

I had a choice of lenses I could have used. I left the 85 1.2 at the studio. I put the 50 1.8 back in the bag. I left the 80-200 2.8 in the car, on purpose. I wanted some flexability in focal ranges and my boss was out of town with his 17-55 2.8.

I do value everyones input and advise for future shoots. And, will file it away for future use.

On a sidenote, they didn't want perfection. They specifically asked for gritty rock shots. Technical shortcomings aside, in the end, they are happy with their pictures.




  
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Jan 05, 2007 22:58 as a reply to  @ dave13's post |  #9

i hear ya on all accounts. don't let anything you read around here discourage you. bottom line is as long as you're getting out and taking pictures, then you're on the right track. dark bars are hard. thanks for sharing. i look forward to seeing the next ones.


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Jan 06, 2007 04:43 |  #10

dave13 wrote in post #2496333 (external link)
1) I had a choice of lenses I could have used. I left the 85 1.2 at the studio. I put the 50 1.8 back in the bag. I left the 80-200 2.8 in the car, on purpose. I wanted some flexability in focal ranges and my boss was out of town with his 17-55 2.8.

I do value everyones input and advise for future shoots. And, will file it away for future use.

2) On a sidenote, they didn't want perfection. They specifically asked for gritty rock shots. Technical shortcomings aside, in the end, 3) they are happy with their pictures.

1) ahhh ... okay??? I'm not sure what that has to do with anything. It only makes sense if for some reason you are taking people's comments as personally reflecting on you and your intelligence, so now it's like ... "well, I could have shot with an $1,800 lens if I wanted to ... and my choice was deliberate not stupid." That's being way over sensitive to feel that you have to defend your access to great gear or your decision making. And it has nothing to do with the end result, ie. doesn't make a hazy picture suddenly sharp.

I hear you that the room was tough ... but, that doesn't make the pictures suddenly sharp and isn't the whole idea of using flash to counteract all those conditions and get sharp shots???

2) Well, congrats then ... He He! Laugh, you set yourself up for that one ;D As is, in your justification of your decision to go with flash, and the kit lens, you never said "I chose this lens because I didn't want to get perfect shots ... etc. .... wanted gritty shots, etc., etc," It seems you mean gritty = hazy and soft. But I've seen - at least to me - gritty is not hazy, maybe not knife sharp, but pretty solid. So I wouldn't say that gritty and hazy and soft are the same. I think, for the sake of learning, it's important to distinguish the terms and not consider them necessarily complementary.

3) Look, here's the rub. It's great the band liked them. And it's obvious that you mention that to kind of say "in the end it doesn;'t matter what others think." But frankly, I don't care what the band thinks. I mean, does my opinion that the sound was great mean anything to a professional soundman, if to his professional standards, the sound was muddy, fuzzy, etc.

What really counts here is do you like them? Are they representative of you? And if they are. Then screw the band and screw us and what's with this need to explain your decisionmaking, etc., etc. But if you are not happy with them. If they are not representative of you. Well ... then admit it and learn, keep striving to better/push yourself [as everyone from me to Dwight does] and come back and posts photos that are.


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