Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Guest
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Photo Sharing & Discussion Still Life, B/W & Experimental 
Thread started 17 Jan 2007 (Wednesday) 15:16
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

Toy Train effect

 
rammy
Goldmember
Avatar
3,189 posts
Likes: 4
Joined Oct 2004
Location: London, England
     
Jan 17, 2007 15:16 |  #1

I saw this effect done on city shots and thought I would give this shot I did last year, a go at it. Kind of came out ok, what do you think?


HOSTED PHOTO
please log in to view hosted photos in full size.


Gear | Surrey Wedding Photographer (external link) | Surrey Wedding Photographer Blog (external link) | London Architecture Photographer (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
inthedeck
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
11,579 posts
Gallery: 5 photos
Likes: 1140
Joined Sep 2006
Location: St. Augustine, Florida
     
Jan 17, 2007 15:49 |  #2

The DOF here is very shallow. Too bad the train wasn't coming from the left to the right, in the image. This would allow for you to catch the train, in the focal plane, as you can see the diagonal line. Also, a slight crop, of the bottom part couldn't hurt, as it doesn't add much.

Otherwise, a nice attempt, and idea.


MCSquared Photography (external link) on WWW
MCSquared Photography (external link) on Flickr
MCSquared Photography (external link) on IG
My name: Manish.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Radtech1
Everlasting Gobstopper
Avatar
6,455 posts
Likes: 38
Joined Jun 2003
Location: Trantor
     
Jan 17, 2007 23:34 as a reply to  @ inthedeck's post |  #3

I agree that you could safely crop off the lower 1/3rd of the shot and it would never be missed. I don't agree that the train should be going across the field of view. On the contrary, this is the point with a manipulation like this.

Speaking of the manipulation, with just a little bit of forethought, it could have been done a little better. The problem is the upright light posts (the red ones). Since they are upright, and the film plane (well, sensor plane) is also upright, they are parallel to the sensor plane. As such, the entire post - bottom to top - would stay either in OR out of focus. They would not be both in focus and out of focus in different areas, as you have them now.

Thinking about this ahead of time, you could have cloned them out. Or, better still, you could created multiple layers, cloned them out of the primary layer, and appropriately blurred them in a different layer, then just combined.

My 2 cents.

Rad


.
.

Be humble, for you are made of the earth. Be noble, for you are made of the stars.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Ianfp
Goldmember
Avatar
1,775 posts
Gallery: 2 photos
Likes: 8
Joined Apr 2006
Location: UK
     
Jan 18, 2007 06:35 |  #4

At first glance it is hard to tell this from the real thing. I like it!


Ian
Nikon D850, 85mm f/1.4G
5D2
EF17-40 f/4.0 L, EF135 f/2.0L EF200 f/2.8L

EF24-105L, EF100 f/2.8L Macro. EOS-M, 22mm f/2
Hasselblad 500C/M, Planar 80mm f/2.8

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
MagicallyDelicious
Goldmember
4,083 posts
Likes: 2
Joined May 2006
Location: Southport UK
     
Jan 18, 2007 06:36 |  #5

Can totally see the effect you have gone for!

and it works!


every mistake is a lesson learned

My Website (external link) Myspace (external link)
Canon 300D 18-55 Kit, Canon 35-80, Canon 50mm 1.8, Sigma 500 DG Super,
Bits n Bobs
RAW FOR DUMMIES

Your Mind Is Like A Parachute.....Only Works When Open.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
rammy
THREAD ­ STARTER
Goldmember
Avatar
3,189 posts
Likes: 4
Joined Oct 2004
Location: London, England
     
Jan 18, 2007 13:26 |  #6

inthedeck wrote in post #2557100 (external link)
The DOF here is very shallow. Too bad the train wasn't coming from the left to the right, in the image. This would allow for you to catch the train, in the focal plane, as you can see the diagonal line. Also, a slight crop, of the bottom part couldn't hurt, as it doesn't add much.

Otherwise, a nice attempt, and idea.

The DOF and the weird focal plane (diagonal line) along with the horizontal image and lines was exactly what I was going for :-) Not something you can get straight out of camera, not sure if Lensbaby can do it. I think you are right about the bottom bit, not much interest there. Thanks for comments.

Ianfp wrote in post #2560136 (external link)
At first glance it is hard to tell this from the real thing. I like it!

Thanks, just trying to put a different "slant" to some photos ;-)a

MagicallyDelicious wrote in post #2560139 (external link)
Can totally see the effect you have gone for!

and it works!

Thank you, I thought something like this would work well where the train, tracks and platform is all you can see.


Gear | Surrey Wedding Photographer (external link) | Surrey Wedding Photographer Blog (external link) | London Architecture Photographer (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
rammy
THREAD ­ STARTER
Goldmember
Avatar
3,189 posts
Likes: 4
Joined Oct 2004
Location: London, England
     
Jan 18, 2007 13:30 |  #7

Radtech1 wrote in post #2559298 (external link)
I agree that you could safely crop off the lower 1/3rd of the shot and it would never be missed. I don't agree that the train should be going across the field of view. On the contrary, this is the point with a manipulation like this.

Speaking of the manipulation, with just a little bit of forethought, it could have been done a little better. The problem is the upright light posts (the red ones). Since they are upright, and the film plane (well, sensor plane) is also upright, they are parallel to the sensor plane. As such, the entire post - bottom to top - would stay either in OR out of focus. They would not be both in focus and out of focus in different areas, as you have them now.

Thinking about this ahead of time, you could have cloned them out. Or, better still, you could created multiple layers, cloned them out of the primary layer, and appropriately blurred them in a different layer, then just combined.

My 2 cents.

Rad

Thanks for the constructive thoughts Rad. Regarding the unusual focus of the posts, that is what I was exactly going for, but too unnatural for your eagle eyes eh :-) I wanted it to look weird in that everthing is horizontal BUT the focal plane is skewed. I wanted to basically get the front of the train and some of the platform in focus, maybe I shoud have waited for the train to pull further into the station.

Maybe too experimental.


Gear | Surrey Wedding Photographer (external link) | Surrey Wedding Photographer Blog (external link) | London Architecture Photographer (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

991 views & 0 likes for this thread, 5 members have posted to it.
Toy Train effect
FORUMS Photo Sharing & Discussion Still Life, B/W & Experimental 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Forums   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset   •  Home

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.58forum software
version 2.58 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member was a spammer, and banned as such!
1606 guests, 134 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15,144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.