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TimothyHughes
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Jan 23, 2007 09:54 |  #1

I plan to get either a set or a single tube (probably Kenko) for my macro work. Here's my questions:

I own an 85mm f/1.8 (min. focus 33.6") and a 50mm f/1.4 (min. focus 17.7"), seems like the 50mm will be the best with the extension tubes.

Can I get by with one long tube? If so This would possible save me some money and I don't do macro very often. I have found a set of 3 Kenko tubes on eBay for $100/shipped which seems good.

Thoughts?


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Jan 23, 2007 10:04 |  #2

Depends on how close you want to go, and what working distance you want to use.
The same tube will give you closer working distance, but higher magnification on the 50mm....

I have a 21mm tube, and on my 1D2 it gives something like this on the closest focussing distance:
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With the 21mm tube and the 50/1.4, I can get a CF card (same width as the phone by the way) to fill the frame hight wise, with just a bit of surroundings left and right. That's on a 1.3 crop factor.
Working distance is a bit small then however: I'd guess some 4 inches from frontlens to CF card...

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Jan 23, 2007 10:07 |  #3

TimothyHughes wrote in post #2586196 (external link)
I plan to get either a set or a single tube (probably Kenko) for my macro work. Here's my questions:

I own an 85mm f/1.8 (min. focus 33.6") and a 50mm f/1.4 (min. focus 17.7"), seems like the 50mm will be the best with the extension tubes.

Can I get by with one long tube? If so This would possible save me some money and I don't do macro very often. I have found a set of 3 Kenko tubes on eBay for $100/shipped which seems good.

Thoughts?

kenko tubes come in a set of three and cost about 75 bucks or about the cost of one canon tube.

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Jan 23, 2007 10:10 |  #4

i have the set of 3 Kenko tubes, and they are great. You will get higher magnification on the 50mm, but the 85 will let you stand a bit farther away (like if you want to shoot some skittish bugs). For flexibility sake, i would get the set instead of one long tube. Its really a great way to spend $100


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Jan 23, 2007 14:44 |  #5

With an extension tube the focus range of a prime lens becomes very limited. That mean you put the extension tube on and move the camera back and forth until the subject comes into focus. You have very little range left for composition because of the limited focusing ability. A selection of extension tube lengths means you can choose the ring or combination of rings that allows you to choose the composition you want. I consider this selection to be very valuable when using a prime lens and almost as useful when using a zoom lens.




  
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Jan 23, 2007 15:35 |  #6

ScottE wrote in post #2587514 (external link)
With an extension tube the focus range of a prime lens becomes very limited. That mean you put the extension tube on and move the camera back and forth until the subject comes into focus. You have very little range left for composition because of the limited focusing ability. A selection of extension tube lengths means you can choose the ring or combination of rings that allows you to choose the composition you want. I consider this selection to be very valuable when using a prime lens and almost as useful when using a zoom lens.

How true - the word "range" is an oxymoron.

Best to have all three or be accustomed to being frustrated, and as pointed out the Kenkos come in a set of three - which I bought instead of one Canon.

Think of it this way: from three lengths, there are seven combinations of length available. What are the odds of guessing the right tube or combination of tubes the first time? Having only one combination (length) lessens the chance of a mistake, but considerably increases the chance of frustration.

As one reviewer put it, the optical properties of Kenko air are just about as good as those of Canon.;)


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Jan 23, 2007 16:00 |  #7

ed rader wrote in post #2586242 (external link)
kenko tubes come in a set of three and cost about 75 bucks or about the cost of one canon tube.

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where can you find them for $75? i see it closer to $150 in most places




  
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Jan 23, 2007 16:52 |  #8

Get all 3.
I have them and I can never tell which tube to use in any given situation. I have used all 3 for all sorts of different things. I have a review and some sample pics (with nifty fifty) here:
http://www.pbase.com …sen/kenko_exten​tion_tubes (external link)


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Jan 23, 2007 17:53 |  #9

jacobsen1 wrote in post #2588275 (external link)
Get all 3.
I have them and I can never tell which tube to use in any given situation. I have used all 3 for all sorts of different things. I have a review and some sample pics (with nifty fifty) here:
http://www.pbase.com …sen/kenko_exten​tion_tubes (external link)

Thank you! Great review and super pics. Nice watch as well :)


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Jan 24, 2007 10:29 |  #10

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Jan 24, 2007 11:32 |  #11

TimothyHughes wrote in post #2588637 (external link)
Thank you! Great review and super pics. Nice watch as well :)

Glad I could help.


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