1Ds MARKII vs. 5D (tests)

I think the focus is not so with 1Ds mark2 as it uses that much focus point wherever, while 5D focus in the center mostly.

That's it. I can't hold back. I'm pulling the trigger. Again.

Tareq wrote in post #2599321
Hi all,

I think no one will interest in this thread but i decided to do it anyway.

Before i post test shots, i will post 2 shots and tell me which camera is used for each shot, not good shots anyway.

1-

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This is a joke right?!? NOBODY can tell for sure from a jpg at less then 100k posted on the web....this is silliness times 1,000.

And if one does guess right, it is a coincidence, to be sure.

Now i will post last result then i will post 2 another shots of those night shots from each camera before i go to sleep.

By the way, i am not good in testing, so if anyone has both cameras then please share us some tests.

Test Result 4:


1- 1Ds MARKII

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Steiglitz wrote in post #2599630
This is a joke right?!? NOBODY can tell for sure from a jpg at less then 100k posted on the web....this is silliness times 1,000.

And if one does guess right, it is a coincidence, to be sure.

you want to make it more accurate? how about to upload RAW from both cameras then anyone go to print both and see, or do whatever pp on both to see which can produce better IQ or better noise handling or so, i think this is the only way, but i posted tests on 100% crop to see that clear.

kiwibloke wrote in post #2599582
If your tripod is giving you problems with getting things level, there are a few 'quick' things you can do to help...

1. Use the focus points in the viewfinder to line the horizon up
2. on the 5D buy the Ee-D focusing screen - it has grid lines marked on it.
3. you can get a bubble level that clips onto the flash hotshoe and you can use that to make sure your camera is level.



Hope that helps.

Thank you very much,
better to change that tripod itself.
but those points are so important and i will think of them for sure as better altern. of changinh tripod.

I am not sure, but those tests show me that maybe my 1Dsmk2 need some calibration, or no?
I don't know why i lost focus on my tests results as i am sure that i got the targets on focus, if not then the same will happen to 5D anyway, what do you think people?

Assuming that these are unprocessed RAW shots instead of JPEG shots (which apply noise reduction) and the exposure settings are the same, the 5D is a touch cleaner at ISO 3200.
Unfortunately, I'm not sure if either of these would look good on a print though as I find prints to be much harsher about noise than looking at the monitor.

Perhaps some same comparison at lower ISO's would help as well as many would only shoot at ISO 3200 if they had no other choice.

Thank you for putting up the images. I like it when people actually take the time to take the shots rather then pontificate about what should be. Oh, throw in a XT or a 30D in there while you're at it.

P.S., the 1DsMII seems to be misfocussing as some have mentioned. But that should not affect noise level in my view.

you really should use same lens, same tripod, same location, and same settings..

Now thats a test i want to see!

Tee Why wrote in post #2599673
Assuming that these are unprocessed RAW shots instead of JPEG shots (which apply noise reduction) and the exposure settings are the same, the 5D is a touch cleaner at ISO 3200.
Unfortunately, I'm not sure if either of these would look good on a print though as I find prints to be much harsher about noise than looking at the monitor.

Perhaps some same comparison at lower ISO's would help as well as many would only shoot at ISO 3200 if they had no other choice.

Thank you for putting up the images. I like it when people actually take the time to take the shots rather then pontificate about what should be. Oh, throw in a XT or a 30D in there while you're at it.

P.S., the 1DsMII seems to be misfocussing as some have mentioned. But that should not affect noise level in my view.

so what ISO should i test with? 1600 or 800?
I just did tests better than discussing about IQ or Noise handle, all can do tests but i am sure you all don't care to do tests and just go out to shoot views, in that case i am wondering why discussing those issues when all can use whatever cameras to produce high nice amazing shots, i printed once 2 shots taken from my 30D at size 20x30" and the results was amazing and both shots were at iso 640 i think so i don't know why i have to worry of noise and IQ from one camera to another, so those tests just some proving in discussion.

StealthLude wrote in post #2599695
you really should use same lens, same tripod, same location, and same settings..

Now thats a test i want to see!

about both shots i posted in the beginning yes, i have to use same settings and same lens and same location and same tripod, even same CF.

about test resluts they all are taken by one CF with same lens and same settings all handheld.

Tareq wrote in post #2599669
I am not sure, but those tests show me that maybe my 1Dsmk2 need some calibration, or no?
I don't know why i lost focus on my tests results as i am sure that i got the targets on focus, if not then the same will happen to 5D anyway, what do you think people?

Tareq, you have a heart of gold, and intentions to match, but for God's sake sir, don't draw any conclusions from your very unscientific "tests".

And to the rest of you guys, why are you feeding this misinformation? You all should know better

Tareq,

I am enjoying the comparison. Thanks for taking the time.
OK, now you have 3 1/2 hours to sleep!

Get that coffee brewing in the morning...you are going to need it!

Tareq wrote in post #2599703
so what ISO should i test with? 1600 or 800?
I just did tests better than discussing about IQ or Noise handle, all can do tests but i am sure you all don't care to do tests and just go out to shoot views, in that case i am wondering why discussing those issues when all can use whatever cameras to produce high nice amazing shots, i printed once 2 shots taken from my 30D at size 20x30" and the results was amazing and both shots were at iso 640 i think so i don't know why i have to worry of noise and IQ from one camera to another, so those tests just some proving in discussion.

i think i will not go tomorrow, i will go to sleep as i am so tired and i am sure i will not wake up on the time, but tomorrow i will go to take shots by both cameras and using same settings and same lens and will see the results.
but you all didn't tell me, should i use high ISO or just it is ok to try ISO 50-200?
for IQ as some said it is difficult to tell on monitors, so i do noise tests mostly, but as you wish or like, just tell me what type of tests would you like to see?