New Canon 1Ds

Does anyone have any insight as to when Canon will release a new 1Ds? I know it's speculation at this point, but I'd like to know if Canon is planning to upgrade the 1Ds in 2004. If so, does anyone know how many megapixels it will have, and what the price might be?

Thanks for looking into the crystal ball for me.

Bill

Oh no, not again...

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Really,.. the 1Ds has no competition. I would not expect a replacement for another year.

In fact,. I would wager that it's replacement will occur exactly 2-6 months AFTER any real competiton is released...

I'm not real sure how they would improve on it? Maybe add wireless capability like the new Nikon? It's an astounding camera as it is.

Probably the 1Ds MkII will have the pixel density of the 1D MkII or even the 10D, and the same ultrafast Digic II processor and reduced noise at high ISO speeds, and probably the same ISO range than the 10D/1D MkII (ISO 1600 at least). The increase pixel density will increase resolution to 14-16MP too. Also it will include the new 1D MkII niceties as automatic orientation of pictures, 10x preview zoom, etc. This is the only I can think as "improvements", to equal the 1Ds to the 1D MkII in features, besides the wireless option already mentioned (and promised by Canon for later this year as an option) .

I also don't think the 1Ds Mk II will be a 2004 camera, more probably a early 2005 one.

Just my 2 cents

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Whew! For a minute, I thought I had been automagically transported to RobotGalbraith.

My two cents (or whatever currency you use) - speculation is fine as long as it is noted as such.

Have Fun
Rick 8)

Here's some more stuff that is decidedly speculation. This is from a chum who got it from a chum who works for... Well, I'll let you guess.

My chum's chum doesn't work in a department that makes him privy to the innermost workings, so he is trying to makes sense of the data that come his way. He has concluded that Canon will release 3 new SLRs this year: the first, as we have seen, is the 1D MkII. The other two will be announced in the autumn (that's fall for those that that need translation ), so presumably Photokina. Neither of these will be the much anticipated 3D, but the 1Ds Mk II and the other will not be a replacement for the 10D, but another excursion into the mass market with something below the 300DRebel at 600-700 currency units.

Canon have publically stated that their only pro cameras will be full-frame, so I imagine that the 1D MkIII is somewhere in the pipeline, but will be dependent on, among other things, the ability to process an image FF CMOS at the machine gun speed necessary to satisfy the PJ and sports shooter. Once that happens, then maybe there will be room for a 1.3 crop 3D model and the 10D (or its replacement) will sit below that with the same 1.6 crop.

My chum also had an interesting theory that some segment of the digital still camera market will disappear in the future. Digital video will be of such a standard that if you want a still picture, you'll just choose "that frame".

Regards,

hmmm... seems there's more to this than meets the eye?

We'll have to go to work then.. and make this OFFICIAL!

The only way that would work is on the very low end as video resolution is so small. There isn't much of a need to increase it - DVD quality is only 720x520 pixels in PAL format (which has the best quality).
This isn't a reletively new idea either as sony has been putting still image capture on their video cameras for 3-4 years now.

That would require a revolution in hardware, and I just don't see it. I know Canon tried the lens compatibility thing several years ago in the VHS days with a camcorder that had interchangeable lenses, and they had an adapter for EOS lenses. I think the camcorder was an L1 or an A1.

Video resolution, while improving, will never need to be as good as still photography because you never see it long enough. Action is the byword, and your eye will never be able to appreciate a 6 megapixel image at 18 frames per second (or whatever it is in video). So why would a manufacturer provide all the good qualities of both in one unit? It would likely be outrageously expensive and have a limited market.

I bought a new camcorder for Christmas 2002, and I got a Sony with 1 megapixel resolution and a memory stick slot. I didn't get it for the memory stick capability, but I thought it might be interesting to try out. At the time, I had a Canon A20 (2 MP), and ultimately I thought 'Why bother with the camcorder?' Unless you have a specific need or you are a Shopsmith kinda person, two cameras will likely be a better choice.

(Steps down off of soapbox)

Have Fun
Rick 8)

So, is this the speculation thread for anything Canon at Photokina, or just for the evolution of the 1Ds

If we can cover it all in one thread, I wonder what new lens announcements will come at Photokina. New 'L's Additional EF-S lenses (if there is a budget Drebel coming, there may be a market) Ultra-wide primes and/or an ultra-wide zoom Inquiring minds want to know

Tick, tick, tick, how many days to Photokina

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Rick 8)

1920x1080 is already here in video (HDTV), but not yet at consumer level, although there is a consumer JVC HD camcorder at 1280x720. Still, 1920x1080 is "only" 2MP (equivalent to a 4MP digicam Bayer type) but once they become common (i.e. cheaper) folks with one of these will be able to choose "that frame". However, by then a 4MP digicam will be $0.99.....

CoolToolGuy wrote:
So, is this the speculation thread for anything Canon at Photokina, or just for the evolution of the 1Ds

If we can cover it all in one thread, I wonder what new lens announcements will come at Photokina. New 'L's Additional EF-S lenses (if there is a budget Drebel coming, there may be a market) Ultra-wide primes and/or an ultra-wide zoom Inquiring minds want to know

Tick, tick, tick, how many days to Photokina

Have Fun
Rick 8)

What the h*** My wild guesses: no new EF lenses announced. New flash system to replace 550 series (radio slave). 1Ds mark II will have 16mp and dual card slots, less noise and faster. Same price or more as current 1Ds. Wireless storage system add-on for 1D(s) mark II series.

What was that video camera system George Lucas used to film one of the new star wars films?
That was video and put out a massive resolution like film (not sure if 35mm or 70mm)??? Of course that is way out of the budget of most professionals, let alone home users.

A speculation thread !?

A speculation thread? *sigh* Ok here's the official scoop from the insider I spoke to who heard from his neighbour who works in the dumpster behind one of the Brooklyn stores.

The 1Ds mark-II is going to have a 14 megapixel sensor.. not much more than the 1Ds since it already beats MF quality. The new one will beat 4x5 Velvia sheet film. It will also have a 12 fps motordrive, a 16-gig internal 800MHz SDRAM buffer, dual 128-bit ASIC processors, a new Digic-III engine, built in wireless LAN 55Mbps card so that you can shoot even without a CF card and directly send your images to a remote server, built in solar charder so that when you're shooting in the sun the batteries are automatically charged.

The breakthroughs in this model are : full screen 1200x800 AF sensors, built in ST-TE3 telepathy module to focus where you want it to (how the hell else do you select from the 1200x800 AF points?), telepathic color balance and exposure system, and ETTL-III flash based on distance measurement as well as telepathic intended flash exposure.

The great thing about this is that the body will weigh half of what the 1Ds weighs, and cost $400. This will completely sink Nikon and all other camera brands including film manufacturers, and many companies will go bankrupt. To compensate, the CF card makers will increase their prices by 800% and make a killing. Every other company will be wiped out and we will have the future microsoft of the camera world.

So there.