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Feb 03, 2007 22:08 |  #1

first time i have ever shot indoors like this let me know what you think


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Feb 03, 2007 22:10 as a reply to  @ post 2650880 |  #2

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Feb 03, 2007 22:19 |  #3

For me, the reflective lights, especially on the first couple just don't work. Makes the car look like it has the measels or something. Three and four have bad shadows.

Sorry, the whole group misses it for me.


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Feb 03, 2007 22:20 as a reply to  @ joegolf68's post |  #4

ok well how do you think i could improve or what could i do next time i shoot like this ?? like i said it was my first time shooting anything like this indoors




  
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Feb 03, 2007 22:39 |  #5

The great photos I see usually don't have many people n the background, it is all auto. Somehow, they find a spot to shoot where those overhead lights either add to the shot, or don't appear at all. Can you find a place to stand where those overhead lights don't show on the auto? Your shots also appear like you are just standing and taking the pics, whereas it might be better to get down low to the ground and shoot upwards, or get really high somehow. Just a few ideas. I have never tried to shoot at an auto show, but have seen others take some great shots. They would be the ones that I hope enter the thread and help you out. Even with the motorcycle, it seems more like just a snapshot done by someone standing there. You show the back railing and all. Looks like composition is where you should start putting more effort. Look at what the pros show, and try to imitate them. My two cents.


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Feb 04, 2007 06:23 as a reply to  @ joegolf68's post |  #6

Looks like a good car show. I am no pro when it comes to these or any other type of photos but i do find that a little bit of playing around in photoshop always helps me overcome those busy backgrounds which are pretty much unavoidable when you have so many people trying to look at the cars at these events.

Here is a before and after of one of my attempts at a car show from about 12 months ago.

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Feb 04, 2007 07:12 |  #7

joegolf68 wrote in post #2650983 (external link)
The great photos I see usually don't have many people n the background, it is all auto. Somehow, they find a spot to shoot where those overhead lights either add to the shot, or don't appear at all. Can you find a place to stand where those overhead lights don't show on the auto? Your shots also appear like you are just standing and taking the pics, whereas it might be better to get down low to the ground and shoot upwards, or get really high somehow. Just a few ideas. I have never tried to shoot at an auto show, but have seen others take some great shots. They would be the ones that I hope enter the thread and help you out. Even with the motorcycle, it seems more like just a snapshot done by someone standing there. You show the back railing and all. Looks like composition is where you should start putting more effort. Look at what the pros show, and try to imitate them. My two cents.

that makes sence ill have to try that next time it was just tough with all the ppl it was packed most of the time i had to push ppl out of the way to get any kinda pic lol but thanks for the feedback




  
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Feb 04, 2007 10:34 |  #8

I was just there last night :D didn't take my camera though. It's hard to take a good quality picture at a car show.


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Feb 04, 2007 12:07 |  #9

joegolf68 wrote in post #2650983 (external link)
Look at what the pros show, and try to imitate them. My two cents.

Just wanted to note most pro's shooting at Auto Shows have passes to get in and hour or more ahead of everyone else hence the nice clean backrounds etc.

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Feb 04, 2007 14:12 |  #10

LexGS3 wrote in post #2653469 (external link)
Just wanted to note most pro's shooting at Auto Shows have passes to get in and hour or more ahead of everyone else hence the nice clean backrounds etc.

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That makes sense. Maybe they also are able to play with the lighting some also which would make a big difference. As I said, I am a nobody rookie photog myself, but for better or worse, I am willing to give an opinion. Maybe I shouldn't, since I don't really have an adequate background from which to be a critic. I think the OP has done great, especially with having an open mind and being so willing to listen to different points of views. My best is that he will get better every time and really be good soon.


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Feb 04, 2007 14:19 |  #11

im no expert, but i dont think there's any way to avoid the overhead lights. theres tons of them and other than shooting at wheel level, there's just no way!

here are a few i shot from the washington auto show.

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Feb 04, 2007 15:37 |  #12

the press day was on Friday morning... it was closed to the public...


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Feb 04, 2007 18:37 as a reply to  @ gdrMatt's post |  #13

yea it was really hard to get a good shot i thought a few came out not bad but out of 117 pics didnt like a lot of them i was looking at a wide angle lens for shooting like that what do you think about the 17-40 L?




  
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Feb 07, 2007 14:50 |  #14

italypa99 wrote in post #2655193 (external link)
yea it was really hard to get a good shot i thought a few came out not bad but out of 117 pics didnt like a lot of them i was looking at a wide angle lens for shooting like that what do you think about the 17-40 L?

Hey Italy, I was at the Philly show yesterday. The overhead lights reflecting on the cars are IMPOSSIBLE to avoid. The only thing you or I can do is to clone them out in PhotoShop. I, Personally do not have time to do that for 200 pics.

Using AWB worked fine, as long as the car was grey. The WB on your Mercedes is perfect, but is slightly off on the Lambo. Compare my pic with yours, I shot RAW and adjusted WB later in PP. See the white sign on the stand behind the Lambo, I used that for the WB for most of the cars in that room.

Here is the same car at the same show, only taken by me:

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As for the 17-40L, it would be fine. Maybe you should also consider an UWA lens. I used the Sigma 10-22mm Ultra-Wide for all of my shots there.

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Feb 07, 2007 15:14 |  #15

now did you use a flash ?? because i did not use one that might be why your pic was a little better and the angle i like you pic the angle looks better i just did not have any mobility at all




  
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