SCRIM

some time ago i have found this on ebay ..it is called scrim ..it is basically a piece of dimmed transparent ..glass/polymer? embedded in frame .. ..you put it behind your subject darkening the background and at the same time fulling the light meter making exposition more fafourable for the main subject ...so it is kind of an alternative to reflectors of all sorts

it's use is obviously justified only outdoors especialy in sun/shade situations

anyone is using it ??
anyone could give constructive opinion on this ?
thx guys i appreciate your replies

Sometimes use it. Not behind the subject though, but put between light (sun) and subject, or (in the studio) between light and BG for example. Like using a flag, but softer.
Link to some examples on Californian Sunbounce site (Probabely not Work Safe)

Jason cole makes extensive use of these. I look forward to using one myself.

cosworth wrote in post #2696413
Jason cole makes extensive use of these. I look forward to using one myself.

Can you elaborate on this?

Go to glamour and nude forum and look up any threads by Jason Cole. You'll see a very similar look to most of his outdoor shots.

Bright crisp background with a softly lit foreground/model. Looks amazing.

I've seen a great deal of Jason's work. I was asking to find out more about the use and technique as opposed to seeing finished product.

guys ...that's not what i meant
i can't find link right now but imagine dimmed framed piece of glass that you put behind the subject (when subject in shadow and background in sun) i makes background darker hence our subject lighter but looking at the picture you can't tell there was anything between you and the background

drogos wrote in post #2697014
guys ...that's not what i meant
i can't find link right now but imagine dimmed framed piece of glass that you put behind the subject (when subject in shadow and background in sun) i makes background darker hence our subject lighter but looking at the picture you can't tell there was anything between you and the background

That sounds like a very specialized device not a general "scrim." I've never seen anything like you've described.

Mark

How big is the thing?

Can we see a picture and get a better description of it's use and technically what is done? I'm not sure exactly what effect is being described and achieved.

So basically, it's a tinted window?
Never seen / used / heard of being used...

yeah basically it looks like a tinted window ...size well 4x2 feet maybe ..you put it behind your object ..light meter pops up the readings... you get more illumination on the object and no blowouts in the background
i am trying to find it ..no luck so far

Here's Westcott's link.

DIY digital video forums will also have ideas for other materials and construction.
However, with the resolution of cameras vs. the tele you may need to watch out...

Pages 24 and 25 of the Product catalog have some more info as well.

MrScott wrote in post #2698390
Here's Westcott's link.

DIY digital video forums will also have ideas for other materials and construction.
However, with the resolution of cameras vs. the tele you may need to watch out...

Pages 24 and 25 of the Product catalog have some more info as well.

That's a pretty neat looking scrim. Obviously it came out of the video world, but I certainly can see possibilities for still photography.

Mark

Back in my video days, we would use the fiberglass bug/solar windows screens that block out xx% of the sun's light from your windows. Aluminum screens for windows and patio doors are much stronger but, they tend to crease unless they are mounted in a frame (there sharp too). The fiberglass was nice because its so light, portable (rolled up in transit) and could be supported from the top without a frame.