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DIY, Adding a cold shoe to the top of a Canon Off Shoe Cord

 
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Feb 16, 2007 17:42 |  #1

After another member suggested adding a cold shoe to the top of the Canon Off Shoe Cord 2, so they would have some where to park the flash when not hand holding it (use for macro work, portraits, all sorts of things), I thought I would see how hard it would be to attach one.

It turns out Canon have already thought of doing just this, making the job much easier than it looks.

Before you begin I can not guarantee how strong this modification is, or how long it will last.

I can of course no be held responsible if you get it wrong.

The modification will involve cosmetic changes to the cord, and a small amount of drilling holes.

You will need:
A hot, or cold shoe. I got mine off an old Pentax off camera flash mount.
A jewelers Phillips head screwdriver
A 1.5mm or 2mm drill bit and drill


To start remove the thick black sticker with the Canon logo from the top of the camera end of the Off shoe cord.
It will reveal 3 screws underneath:

Remove the 3 screws labeled in Blue.
The screws labeled in red do not need to be removed, but can be for interests sake if your careful, and wish to see the wiring etc, inside the rest of the cord.

IMAGE: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/Moppie/IMG_7417-01.jpg


Once all 3 are removed carefully remove the top of the cord:

IMAGE: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/Moppie/IMG_7423-01.jpg

Whats revealed shows how easy this job is.
The large metal part already has holes drilled and tapped, ready for a cold shoe to be screwed on.
These holes are marked in blue.


The two holes beside each other in the top part of the cord already line up with the standard holes in a cold shoe, all you need to do now is drill out the other two holes needed in the top part of the cord.

I laid the hot shoe over the existing to holes, marked and drilled the holes.
Of course I missed, and had to make the holes bigger.
You might be better off reassembling the cord, with the cold shoe mounted with only the 2 screws in the existing holes, then marking the new ones. Disassemble before drilling of course :)

I found the small screws originally removed from the cord were to short, and I had to reuse the slightly longer ones removed with the shoe from the pentax mount.


Total build time was about 30mins, and I think the result looks rather good. It certainly works:

IMAGE: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/Moppie/IMG_7427-01.jpg


To make this a hot shoe, you would only need to install a centre contact.
The metal plate the shoe mounts to is, earthed, so the best way might be to cut out the top of the cord, and install a whole shoe assembly, mounting it to the existing plate, then carefully soldering in a contact to the side of the cord.
You could also make it an E-TTL hot shoe useing the same method, although I'm not sure how the camera would handle having two flash units sharing the same contact on the camera.

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Feb 16, 2007 17:50 |  #2

Very nice modification Moppie. Good job. I've seen many threads from people asking for just such a thing.


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Feb 16, 2007 18:36 as a reply to  @ TMR Design's post |  #3

Bravo mate, bravo


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Feb 16, 2007 21:38 |  #4

Check my site, as I have pictures of it completed with both a Canon dedicated hot shoe, and a regular hot shoe. I use screws, and back it up with nuts to keep everything secure.

Biggest problem is that extra torque on the camera hot shoe might be a problem if you are too wild with the assembly.

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Here is the link to a picture of a Canon dedicated hot shoe atop the camera end of the cord:
http://bp3.blogger.com …ffCameCord_DedH​otShoe.jpg (external link)

Here is a link to a picture of the non Canon hot shoe:
http://bp0.blogger.com …-h/OffCamShoeCord_New.j​pg (external link)


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Feb 17, 2007 02:01 |  #5

Beyond my budget, but sweet.

jmb4370 wrote in post #2722192 (external link)
Check my site, as I have pictures of it completed with both a Canon dedicated hot shoe, and a regular hot shoe. I use screws, and back it up with nuts to keep everything secure.

Biggest problem is that extra torque on the camera hot shoe might be a problem if you are too wild with the assembly.

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Here is the link to a picture of a Canon dedicated hot shoe atop the camera end of the cord:
http://bp3.blogger.com …ffCameCord_DedH​otShoe.jpg (external link)

Here is a link to a picture of the non Canon hot shoe:
http://bp0.blogger.com …-h/OffCamShoeCord_New.j​pg (external link)


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Feb 17, 2007 05:06 |  #6

Nice work, Moppie!


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Feb 18, 2007 18:19 |  #7

Thanks for the diy idea.

Any ideas which hotshoes will work with this mod? Is there a way to get a canon replacement shoe to work with this or rather will canon sell the parts directly? Would love to do this to my off camera shoe.

Also, my off camera shoe now seems to have a little wiggle in the flash mount. Is there a way to tighten this or make it more secure?




  
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Feb 25, 2007 16:03 |  #8

I can't believe I forgot about this thread :)

Thanks for the comments guys!


Michael, your work looks to be of a very high quality on your site, do you do anything to reinforce the on camera part of the off camera shoe?
And can I ask where you source the E-TTL and cold shoes from?


xoshooter, the cold shoe I used came from a pentax off camera shoe mount that a friend bought on a local trading site. He ended with several extras, and so gave me one to play with.

I believe there is an international standard for hot shoes, and most camera manufactors stick to it. This way third part flashes can be used on a variety of cameras.
This means the basic shoe is always the same size and shape, use the base of the shoe as an earth, and the center pin as the "hot" connection to trigger the flash.
Different manufactorers then use thier own pin lay out around the centre pin for thier own flash metering systems.


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Feb 25, 2007 21:17 |  #9

Moppie wrote in post #2773180 (external link)
I can't believe I forgot about this thread :)

I can't believe you didn't tell us about it... Looks tidy - are you going into production? I know someone with a couple of Pentax off-camera adapters. He's a procrastinator, and is having trouble getting motivated to finish his Canon off-camera extension project - maybe this thread will help with the motivation.


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Feb 25, 2007 22:09 |  #10

LOL!

I made the thread in a bit of a rush, I forgot I made it let along posting a link in the GKPE thread.

Tell your mate with the adapters, he needs to get it all finished by this weekend, or he won't get his HDD back, will that be enough motivation?

On that note, we know someone with a broken off shoe cord that might benefit from a similar treatment, or at least be useful for parts....


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Feb 26, 2007 13:08 |  #11

goog on ya Moppie!


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Feb 26, 2007 20:59 |  #12

thats great I was wondering why there was no such thing as this :)


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Oct 01, 2007 11:09 |  #13

jmb4370 wrote in post #2722192 (external link)
Check my site, as I have pictures of it completed with both a Canon dedicated hot shoe, and a regular hot shoe. I use screws, and back it up with nuts to keep everything secure.

Biggest problem is that extra torque on the camera hot shoe might be a problem if you are too wild with the assembly.

Michael
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Here is the link to a picture of a Canon dedicated hot shoe atop the camera end of the cord:
http://bp3.blogger.com …ffCameCord_DedH​otShoe.jpg (external link)

Here is a link to a picture of the non Canon hot shoe:
http://bp0.blogger.com …-h/OffCamShoeCord_New.j​pg (external link)

Do you sell these at all? I am very interested in a cable but would like the shoe on top to store my flash when im not using it.


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Jan 23, 2008 16:55 |  #14

What about for the OC-E3? Anyone think you could just drill some small screw through a cold shoe? Then you could set the one end on top another.


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