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May 12, 2011 14:48 |  #2821

jonneymendoza wrote in post #12395607 (external link)
Anyways, i tried this lens out in a shop today and the difference when IS is enables and disables is astounding. im now a believer and a fan of this lens :)

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May 12, 2011 15:49 |  #2822

Old photo... Took this with my 40D the day I got the lens. I was 16 at the time.

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May 12, 2011 16:01 |  #2823

Nice one Rick...you must have been pleased! This is from one of my very first outings...and I had no idea then that it would become my most used lens.


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May 13, 2011 22:53 |  #2824

Two samples I just posted in the 7D thread

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The MFD isn't the greatest for macro, but it works well for flowers :)

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May 14, 2011 08:32 |  #2825

drew wrote in post #12406347 (external link)
Two samples I just posted in the 7D thread

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The MFD isn't the greatest for macro, but it works well for flowers :)

That 7D is amaizing! So are these pics - feels like you can touch them. Did you use a flash with the bottom one?


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May 14, 2011 10:42 |  #2826

Nope. All natural lighting. I did have some early evening front lighting that helped, probably.

Thanks for the comments!


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May 14, 2011 13:03 |  #2827

I would like to get some feedback from you guys, if I may. The whole idea behind this shoot is to see how far I can push the f4 IS in low light and hand held.

1) Would you be happy with the noise level zoomed in at 100%? ISO @ 800 to get decent shutter speed (hand held).

2) What are those lens artifacts? I've never shot into the sun like this, so I wouldn't know if this is normal for this lens or not.

3) What was the darkest environment you've used this lens at without flash?

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May 14, 2011 13:23 |  #2828

Giom,

At a "four stop" improvement with IS, you can "hope" for 1/20 as a bare minimum on a static subject. With a human subject, I'd go no lower than 1/60 - 1/100 personally. That being said, the photo is under exposed. I'd drop the shutter to 1/250 (or 1/180 since you seem to be using 1/2 stops) to work towards a better exposed subject. Higher ISOs demand better exposure technique to minimize noise.

Those "lens artifacts" seem... I'm not sure. Are you using a filter?


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May 14, 2011 13:42 |  #2829

Hi Drew. Thank you for the reply.

I'm not using any special filters other than the standard uv filter they had recomended for the L series glass.

I am intrigued, tho, as to what you mean by better exposure techniques to minimize noise. But my most curious question would be; would you be happy with this shot? Should I be using a tri/mono pod in these low light situations? A flash maybe? Or, am I over stepping the abilities of the lens?

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May 14, 2011 13:54 |  #2830

all 200mm F4.0 on 5D classic

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May 14, 2011 14:00 |  #2831

If you were to repeat the shot (in the exact same situation) here's what I'd recommend:

Do it twice
1) Ensure you have the hood on. Drop the shutter speed to 1/250 or 1/180. The shutter speed will still be high enough to freeze motion of the subject and the IS should ensure the camera movement is taken care of. Move the subject (or yourself) enough to kill that light on the (camera) right side to give the subject a nice rim light.

2) Do the same as above, but without any UV filter.

I believe the T2i has a good enough sensor and the lens is fantastic. I don't believe that shot required outside stabilization (a tri/mono pod) There seems to be enough light to not use flash, but you might get away with it if you want. Just turn down the power (manual) or dial in -1 to -2 FEC (ETTL, flash exposure compensation). I mean this with absolute respect and do not mean it to be rude in anyway, I just believe that "practice makes perfect" and that you, with the gear you had, made an even better shot just making some better choices.

I'd be happy with the composition* but not the exposure. If you shot RAW, you could probably massage it in Lightroom/Aperture/ACR​/etc. and add some fill manually. I am also a perfectionist.

Edit: Compensation != composition


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May 14, 2011 14:35 |  #2832

That's great advice Drew, thank you! You're hitting the nail on the head with "practice makes perfect", even a great lens like this, require some degree of skill and experience in less than ideal situations, to get the perfect shot. All part of the creativity and science we're using to create art.

I did indeed use RAW, always do, here's a better exposed version.

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May 14, 2011 19:02 |  #2833

^^Interesting stuff from you guys...always helpful to learn. That's what's great about POTN!

Can't for the life of me figure those green artifacts...trying to see a pattern refracted from the highlights beyond but can't figure it. I shoot into the sun all the time and have never had a problem like that.

Here's a shot from yesterday...something much easier....


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May 15, 2011 03:30 |  #2834

Ricardo222 wrote in post #12410380 (external link)
^^Interesting stuff from you guys...always helpful to learn. That's what's great about POTN!...

I know, such a pitty I hadn't discovered this site earlyer!

Ricardo222 wrote in post #12410380 (external link)
Can't for the life of me figure those green artifacts...trying to see a pattern refracted from the highlights beyond but can't figure it. I shoot into the sun all the time and have never had a problem like that.

That's quite interesting. Do you use a UV filter when you shoot into the sun? But, I also had a good look at those highlights from the sun. It's the only thing that makes sense, that and the filter... I'll try to re-create the scenario this afternoon like Drew suggested.

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Here's a shot from yesterday...something much easier....

That's a great shot of the little bird... how on earth do you get to be so close to them. Must be quite tame. The composition is also great.


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May 15, 2011 03:54 |  #2835

Giom wrote in post #12411998 (external link)
I know, such a pitty I hadn't discovered this site earlyer!

That's quite interesting. Do you use a UV filter when you shoot into the sun? But, I also had a good look at those highlights from the sun. It's the only thing that makes sense, that and the filter... I'll try to re-create the scenario this afternoon like Drew suggested.

That's a great shot of the little bird... how on earth do you get to be so close to them. Must be quite tame. The composition is also great.

Yes I do use a protecting filter...against the advice of many on POTN...but working around the shipyard here where I have had paint overspray and all sorts of abrasive dust on my filters, I put up with them. But I use the best Hoyas and change them at need!

The fantails are quite tame, but they hardly sop moving so you have to ba alert...that was about a 25% crop so I wasn't THAT close...patience, as always, is the word!


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