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Feb 19, 2007 13:02 |  #1

here a screen shot of my webstats for last month. how much do you get?

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Feb 19, 2007 17:08 |  #2

Man, you just gave me a wake up call. I've been avoiding my website for awhile now. I switched from plain HTML to Joomla while back, and since then my actual visits have plumeted...the bad thing is that about 2/3 of my hits seem to be bots. I'd say I get maybe 500 actual visitors a month at this point. The good thing, is that i don't really care. One of these days though I'm going to get fired up and go back to a more search engine friendly text/css based layout.

The moral of the story is...be prepared to do some serious search engine optimization if you're thinking about switching to a CMS.
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Feb 19, 2007 17:25 as a reply to  @ bacchanal's post |  #3

i've heard good things about joomla. i think that is what my magazine is using now.?. (http://honesttune.com​). i use wordpress with gallery2 embedded. i seem to do ok with search engines, but would do better if i would make more posts, rather than just sending them only to the photo gallery.

i like the layout of your site.


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Feb 19, 2007 17:36 |  #4

Rebuilt my site with super basic html and porta. I disabled coppermine as it was too buggy. i think this drove traffic away from my site. I had just over 9000 hits on it (coppermine) since October.

I've reset my webstats now.

BUT - I did somethng that may drive traffic away - I re-did my site in a much larger format. You get scroll bars at 1024. I've been reading lately that load times and scrool bars determine if peopel stay at actually LOOK at your site. Gone are teh heavy FLash pre-loaders of yore.

Get a nice quick BANG of a front door and get them to click to go in. The scroll bars make them interested in seeing what is outside their antiquated resolution specs and interact with your site. You are more pat (if the content is there) to keep people at your site this way I been reading.

Getting traffic to yur site is fine and dandy, but I certainly want to keep people on my site and looking, getting interested. Hard to do in this ADHD world.


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Feb 19, 2007 18:08 |  #5

thelightofsound wrote in post #2737505 (external link)
i've heard good things about joomla. i think that is what my magazine is using now.?. (http://honesttune.com​). i use wordpress with gallery2 embedded. i seem to do ok with search engines, but would do better if i would make more posts, rather than just sending them only to the photo gallery.

i like the layout of your site.

Thanks, the layout supercedes the content by a fair margin I would say. I really need to prune! :oops:

Joomla is great in many ways, it makes posting and organizing and rearranging content a breeze. That's what a CMS is for after all. The problem is that the pages are dynamic, and I think a lot of the content gets lost in all of the php. You can attach meta info to any piece of content, but I haven't seen much come from it. I use a 'friendly url' plug-in and an SEO plug-in and I'm still far behind plain old html in terms of serch engine optimization. I guess for me joomla just kind of solved some problems and created others. I think I might be able to do what I want on my own with css and server side includes...but I haven't gotten the time or will power to try it yet.
Supposedly the joomla team is working on joomla 2, which is supposed to be more css/text based, and it sounds like it could very well become the ultimate open source cms.


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Feb 19, 2007 18:45 |  #6

bacchanal wrote in post #2737700 (external link)
Thanks, the layout supercedes the content by a fair margin I would say. I really need to prune! :oops:

Joomla is great in many ways, it makes posting and organizing and rearranging content a breeze. That's what a CMS is for after all. The problem is that the pages are dynamic, and I think a lot of the content gets lost in all of the php. You can attach meta info to any piece of content, but I haven't seen much come from it. I use a 'friendly url' plug-in and an SEO plug-in and I'm still far behind plain old html in terms of serch engine optimization. I guess for me joomla just kind of solved some problems and created others. I think I might be able to do what I want on my own with css and server side includes...but I haven't gotten the time or will power to try it yet.
Supposedly the joomla team is working on joomla 2, which is supposed to be more css/text based, and it sounds like it could very well become the ultimate open source cms.

Joomla being dynamic isn't to blame, the php is processed server side and generates an html page based on a template, that page is what your content is embeded in. Now templates could be to blame for bad code. You could use very basic templates without any change in Joomla code. I guess my point is, if Joomla 2 comes out and you use the same templates you are using (so your site maintains its appearance), the pages the search engines or users will look the same - they might just load faster.


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Feb 19, 2007 19:51 |  #7

bmoguy wrote in post #2737895 (external link)
Joomla being dynamic isn't to blame, the php is processed server side and generates an html page based on a template, that page is what your content is embeded in. Now templates could be to blame for bad code. You could use very basic templates without any change in Joomla code. I guess my point is, if Joomla 2 comes out and you use the same templates you are using (so your site maintains its appearance), the pages the search engines or users will look the same - they might just load faster.

Yeah, you're right. It's the table based template code that bogs things down. I just did a 'view page source' on my home page...yikes.


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Feb 20, 2007 09:58 as a reply to  @ bacchanal's post |  #8

Stats are for 7 days as database needs emptying fairly regular, bandwidth is about 1 gig a day.

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Feb 20, 2007 10:02 as a reply to  @ Biko's post |  #9

nice biko. those are great numbers. 2687 visits per day is a lot! how do you get most of your traffic?


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Feb 20, 2007 10:18 as a reply to  @ thelightofsound's post |  #10

Work with a guy who is excellent at SEO who optomises the site as and when changes need to be made. Most of the traffic is via google, could get more but prevented most of the site being crawled for google images.




  
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Feb 20, 2007 10:55 |  #11

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Web traffic is great, but isn't the real question "how does it help my business?" Does more traffic increase your revenue?

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Feb 20, 2007 11:14 |  #12

sspellman wrote in post #2741719 (external link)
TLOS-

Web traffic is great, but isn't the real question "how does it help my business?" Does more traffic increase your revenue?

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There is certainly truth to that. It's not so much about how many, but who. I find that getting a few hits from people around my area is just as good as getting many 'fluff' hits off of google. Of course, I'm not selling anything. It's just cool when people tell me they checked out my site. I once had a band tell me that a label contacted them after reading one of my reviews, that made me feel pretty cool.


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Feb 20, 2007 11:21 |  #13

sspellman wrote in post #2741719 (external link)
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Web traffic is great, but isn't the real question "how does it help my business?" Does more traffic increase your revenue?

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i don't really make any money off my photography. which is why i have the day job. i would like to have enough traffic to sell some ads, so at least pay for more gear. it has turned into a publication which justifies creds. but for the most part, i agree with bacchanal


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Feb 20, 2007 14:16 |  #14

bacchanal wrote in post #2737423 (external link)
The moral of the story is...be prepared to do some serious search engine optimization if you're thinking about switching to a CMS.
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Some CMS's can add a lot of garbage for the bots to sort through, and add lots of menu items that appear on every single page. If most of your actual content is images, and most of your text is the repeated links in your menu - you may run into duplicate content issues and get put into the supplemental index in Google, which will really - really hurt your traffic levels. ;)


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