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Feb 23, 2007 14:45 |  #1

So I went for a hike last weekend, and was a little unhappy with some of my shots. With shots like these, how do I get the hills to be really rich and Green? It just looks kinda washed out to me, is it simply because of the cloud cover? Or is there something I should be doing post process? Any help would be appreciated. (These were taken with the Kit Lens, 1/60 f/18 )


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Feb 23, 2007 15:01 |  #2

boost saturation, but first i'd try to open up the detail in the shadows with the 'highlights' command.

this shot is difficult because there are two different 'scenes', the sky and the hills. requiring two different exposures. one will be blown out and the other will be fine, or one will be fine and the other dark.


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Feb 23, 2007 17:03 |  #3

There are lots of things we can do to make these photos look better.

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One thing I could have done to make these photos better was to add some sharpening to it in Photoshop, which I haven't.

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Feb 24, 2007 15:42 as a reply to  @ Swift's post |  #4

Sorry for that, but i tried a little bit, forgive me if it is bad

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Feb 24, 2007 20:32 |  #5

just tested, levels, sharpen


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Feb 27, 2007 00:38 |  #6

Hi! There's lots of PP help here, but the real problem is that your camera (and all cameras, for that matter) is not capable of capturing the dynamic range of this scene in one photograph without help. Which is to say, the sky is too bright and the ground is too dark, and the camera can't make both look good at the same time. The eye and the human brain significantly outperform all cameras in existance, especially when it comes to dynamic range. There are several ways around this.

If you are using a DSLR, you can buy what is known as a "graduated filter". Basically, this is a piece of glass that screws on over your lens. The top half of the glass is like a sunshade -- it's darker. The darkness gradually fades away as you get to the bottom part of the glass. This way, you can make the sky darker in the photograph while exposing for the land.

Another way to do this without the filters is to use a tripod and take two photographs, one exposing for the land, one for the sky. Then, you use a program like Photoshop, and blend the two together. The process is kinda involved, but there are tutorials on the net if you Google it.

Yet another way of fixing this is to use a tripod, take several photos at different exposures, and then use a program like Photoshop or Photomatix to create an "HDR" image, from which you can create a normal image that looks very much like what you saw when you were there. There are tutorial for doing this on the net, too. I wrote one for CS2 here:

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Also, I tried my hand at postprocessing the images you posted. Below is as good as I could get them -- as you can see, they're pretty much unsaveable. :) I'd go back and shoot it again using one of the above methods, if I were you.

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Feb 27, 2007 13:12 |  #7

These pics are difficult because there's quite a bit of haze which makes the colours "pop" less... Use of a GND filter would have probably helped also.


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Feb 28, 2007 19:59 |  #8

chakalakasp wrote in post #2782178 (external link)
Hi! There's lots of PP help here, but the real problem is that your camera (and all cameras, for that matter) is not capable of capturing the dynamic range of this scene in one photograph without help. Which is to say, the sky is too bright and the ground is too dark, and the camera can't make both look good at the same time. The eye and the human brain significantly outperform all cameras in existance, especially when it comes to dynamic range. There are several ways around this.

If you are using a DSLR, you can buy what is known as a "graduated filter". Basically, this is a piece of glass that screws on over your lens. The top half of the glass is like a sunshade -- it's darker. The darkness gradually fades away as you get to the bottom part of the glass. This way, you can make the sky darker in the photograph while exposing for the land.

Another way to do this without the filters is to use a tripod and take two photographs, one exposing for the land, one for the sky. Then, you use a program like Photoshop, and blend the two together. The process is kinda involved, but there are tutorials on the net if you Google it.

Yet another way of fixing this is to use a tripod, take several photos at different exposures, and then use a program like Photoshop or Photomatix to create an "HDR" image, from which you can create a normal image that looks very much like what you saw when you were there. There are tutorial for doing this on the net, too. I wrote one for CS2 here:

http://backingwinds.bl​ogspot.com …fessional-hdr-images.html (external link)

Also, I tried my hand at postprocessing the images you posted. Below is as good as I could get them -- as you can see, they're pretty much unsaveable. :) I'd go back and shoot it again using one of the above methods, if I were you.


I'm anxious to try out this method. I've tried to work with HDR but have not been happy with the results yet. Perhaps tonight will be different


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Feb 28, 2007 20:34 |  #9

I love HDRs

try using photomatix software by HDR Soft... works great


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Mar 01, 2007 04:05 |  #10

On the other hand, if you haven't got a filter, I would just run with it and go for a moody shot. Use what you see to your advantage. If the saturation is terrible, forget about it and convert it to B&W. :D


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Mar 01, 2007 20:26 |  #11

Fuji Velvia!

Oh, Digital you say? Circular Polarizer will help cut the haze. Get one that fits the largest diameter lens you have and get some step down rings so you can use it on multiple lenses.


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Mar 01, 2007 20:40 |  #12

milleker wrote in post #2798775 (external link)
Circular Polarizer will help cut the haze.

No it won't !?!! It will reduce the glare on the leaves but won't do anything for the haze.

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Get one that fits the largest diameter lens you have and get some step down rings so you can use it on multiple lenses.

That's a good idea though :cool: I never thought of doing that.


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Mar 01, 2007 20:47 |  #13

I would use a shutter speed of 1/25. Greens seem to look better. Set your camera to 1/25 and then adjust your Av until a correct exposure is indicated.


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Mar 01, 2007 20:48 |  #14

Also take the reading off of the sky. imo


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Mar 01, 2007 22:09 |  #15

J D Skate wrote in post #2798882 (external link)
I would use a shutter speed of 1/25. Greens seem to look better. Set your camera to 1/25 and then adjust your Av until a correct exposure is indicated.

?? What in the world does shutter speed have to do with color saturation? The only thing that will change between, say, 1/25 f/11 and and 1/50 f/8 is the DOF. It doesn't affect that saturation at all.


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