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Jun 16, 2008 17:56 as a reply to  @ post 5733412 |  #2176

My quickest advice is to shoot in manual mode with a tripod, start off with an exposure value of +1, and then take 6-8 shots with a 1/3 stop slower shutter speed each time to increase the exposure value for each successive shot. Then pick the best photo and process it in the software. I'm not sure there's a way to get around post processing unless you really know what you're doing which I don't.


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Jun 16, 2008 18:22 |  #2177

You dont need any live info if yu use the same equipment all the time. Same lights same tent etc etc. Such as I know I need 1 to 1.5 stops of overexposure in my setup to get the subject exposed right. I basically set the Exp Comp to +1 and start shooting. I check it to fine adjust it and Im off. No PP needed to make it white. The camera and lights take care if it automatically. Just do as suggested above and ignore the meter. You want the subject right. Find the exposure you need.When it is correct most likley the background wil be blown out automatically. If you always use the same stuff just remember the Exp Comp and set the camera next time.


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Jun 16, 2008 18:41 as a reply to  @ CameraLens's post |  #2178

More About My Setup, If Anyone Is Interested.

A couple of people have sent private messages asking about my setup, so Here's a little more info with a few quick snapshots. I got some plain white foam boards from Michael's (marked down to $1.00 USD apiece) and some white cardboard paper in several different colors. I prolly coulda gotten somethin' cheaper than cardboard paper, but it seems to be working. (Hint: save your money and don't get black cardboard paper. It'll look like crap and won't come out black at all! :cry: )

Then I went to Home Depot and got some o' these guys to attach the white foam boards together:

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All I had to do was poke holes in the foam boards and screw 'em together like so:

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I chose hardware that wouldn't require tools, that way the lightbox can be assembled or disassembled by hand. The cardboard paper is simply taped in place. Something that caught my eye though at the hardware store was these nifty little adhesive velcro strips. They could be stuck to the cardboard paper and on the top of the inside of the light box permanently so that you can easily velcro the cardboard paper on and off without tape. I was tempted, but the velcro was a bit pricey, so I'm stickin' with the tape for now! :D

I used a steak knife to cut the foam boards as needed, and a drawing-compass to poke the holes for the hardware. I found some translucent plastic-ish paper at an art supply store for the sides which has worked nicely. It is simply taped in place. The top white foam board is not attached. It's simply resting freely on top of the side and rear boards.

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I've noticed some people's photos look hazy and overexposed around the edges of the subject, or too dark in the middle of the subject, especially with photos of black lenses (I had the same problem at first). To help prevent this, I use a small lamp to put light directly on the front of the subject. That way I don't have to overexpose too much which is what seems to cause that 'halo'-ish haziness.

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It's still not perfect, but after a lot of trial and error and post-processing (PP), I've been able to get better shots than when I started out.

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Jun 16, 2008 21:10 |  #2179

Same thing, by the way, with the histogram. I'd like to see what it would be before I take the picture.
So I'm talking about live info. Do the high-end Canons have it? Is there any gear one can buy for the cameras that don't have it?

In a studio, I'd shoot & chimp the histogram. Outside, I use this: Need an exposure crutch?


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Jun 17, 2008 15:13 as a reply to  @ PhotosGuy's post |  #2180

Here's a quick'ish example of a low-key watch shot with a black velvet background...

...and yes I now realise I should have set the hands to 10.20 o'clock! Also picked up a replacement watch the other weekend so now have a plastic strap shaper device with which to hold the watch in place better.

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Jun 17, 2008 17:54 |  #2181

Actually 10:10. But we know what you mean. On this monitor (at work) there seens to be no white. It is all gray. But I like the shot a lot.


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Jun 18, 2008 01:44 |  #2182

made a new one today.

this is just on camera flash

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Jun 18, 2008 08:34 |  #2183

That is not bad at all for on-camera flash! Probably because it is flat black.


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Jun 18, 2008 08:56 |  #2184

Probably because it is flat black.

I'll bet you can make it look better! Try a light film of oil on it & the knife & Browning threads here:
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Jun 18, 2008 13:09 |  #2185

I think I like this one better.


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Jun 18, 2008 22:00 |  #2186

Been reading this thread for a couple days now, and put my box together using the foam core, and the orange box light method. Used custom white balance and this is my FIRST shot using the 30D and Sigma 30 1.4

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Jun 18, 2008 22:40 as a reply to  @ Jbs's post |  #2187

OK I went walmart cheap with my lightbox..lol. It's not that bad though.. I now know I need brighter lights...and more practice.

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Jun 18, 2008 23:17 |  #2188

Second attempt with the DIY lightbox...

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Jun 19, 2008 01:43 |  #2189

Very impressive.

How do you meter your exposures to get the background evenly whitened?


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Jun 19, 2008 03:19 as a reply to  @ photobitz's post |  #2190

Indeed - very impressive (the pictures as well as the lens collection)

What paper have you used for the background - the slight shadow at the bottom looks grainy which might be the paper texture ?


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