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New Rebel XTi owner - Need advice for lenses for filming Cars/Sleds

 
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Mar 15, 2007 21:00 |  #16
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CANUSA - let me put it another way I have 2 days to get ready for our last ice drags and don't have time to read 6mths worth of text ( not that I'd mind but that can come after the season here is over ).

Can you guys please give me the base settings on the XTi for outside shots on Ice/Snow for fast moving sleds?

all have all of 10 min's to practice L!




  
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Mar 15, 2007 21:04 |  #17

The Sigma 70-200 f/2.8 is a another good one.


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Mar 15, 2007 21:06 |  #18

you can always turn the dial over the the action setting :l


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Mar 15, 2007 21:23 |  #19
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L! tried that... dogs tail still BLURY L!




  
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Mar 15, 2007 23:19 |  #20

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CANUSA - let me put it another way I have 2 days to get ready for our last ice drags

Well, why didn't you say that before...??

I would try f11-16 outside on a sunny day. and lets go with whatever shutterspeed you need to keep the sleds focused. Bumpnig up the iso accordingly. Could even go lower on the F/#.

Try say f11, 1/750 @iso 400 See what that gives you if its too dark.. either turn up the iso, or use a lower f# ex f/8. Too bright... do the opposite. That should definately stop the tails from wagging.


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Mar 15, 2007 23:28 as a reply to  @ canusa's post |  #21
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I wouldn’t go that high with shutter speed.
He will get better pics with a little bit of background blur.
Panning with, let’s say, 1/250s should do the trick..
But, it takes practice, it takes time to master..

Having said that, I have to confess that I’ve never shot sled race..


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Mar 16, 2007 08:10 |  #22

i agree with trying to get some background blur. But to start off.. i'd rather have him still the shots than have ones that are totally blurry. Try it, and then start lowering the shutter speed as much as you can with still keeping the shots sharp. Good luck. And please do post the pics once you are done.


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ok, now we're getting somewhere.... I goof'd around last night with the settings shooting at a lit lamp.... by moving from the body of the lamp which was dark to the lighted bulb I could see what everyone is talking about by light affecting shutter speed, etc etc.. bizarre how we'll learn L! I think I'm at least getting on to some of the terms mentioned by a number of you , so a MONSTER thanks




  
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Mar 16, 2007 08:14 |  #24
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Oh.. ya, I'll post some pics here Monday ( should be good for a laugh )

trust me, I will GET THIS ..... when I decide to take something on I get obsessed ( like there was this really hot underaged chick in Mexico once?? L! )

cheers guys! u rock




  
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Mar 16, 2007 08:26 |  #25

2kool:
Go out and get the book Understanding Exposure by Bryan Peterson
Take about 2 - 4 hours to read and you'll have some very good ground to start from with your new Rebel, and getting the type of results that you want.


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is 70-200mm F/2.8L the agreed lens that most everyone is thinking for what we're doing?


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Mar 16, 2007 08:45 |  #27

Excellent choice


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That book has been recommended about 10x now Vortex99 so thanks, I will take that advice.




  
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Mar 16, 2007 10:26 |  #29

Most of all.. play with your camera.. see for yourself the effects certain changes to settings make. try only changing one thing at a time, so you can see exactly what it does to your shots. Shooting things close up, far away night/day etc etc. See how you like to take pictures. That will be the best decision maker in what lens to get.

Lots of variables & "the setting" for one sport will/may be all wrong for another. Even just one shot later! Some help:

See if this sheds some light on using M settings:
Virtual Camera
http://www.photonhead.​com/simcam/ (external link)
Notice the background change when you use his "Shutter and Aperture" settings!

Some tips on panning in these threads:
drag racing tips
Panning Shots

Sports Shooting Tutorials and Advice
https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=135417


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Mar 16, 2007 11:46 |  #30

I also shoot action sleding and with an SLR things get more dificault to get the correct exposure because the snow completly fools the metering in the camera and you will get gray snow alot of the time which will drive you nuts. I use a 70-200 F4 L it is the best bang for the buct expecally with a 1.4 TC on it it is loke having 2 lenses. You will be fine in snowy cinditions with the F4 because you will hae lots of light. You would be better off with a monopod for shootong action and the 70-200 f 2.8 IS is the way to go if you have the large dollars to spend on it however go to a camera store and have a look at the actual size and weight or the 2.8 it is huge and heavy compared to the F4 version. If you are going to buy a lens definatally don't buy it in Canada it is alot cheaper to buy from B+H and it will be on your doorstep in 2-3 days with only GST to pay as well


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