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Mar 15, 2007 10:20 |  #1

I believe I have a young lady (older than me by 1yr but I digress) lined up for some on location photography. I do not intend to make money off of this, I simply want to get some experience. This will be the frst person I have done a session with that has not been a friend or family member.

So with that said should I watermark the photos or leave them be? She was simply a waitress who I thought would be great doing portraits with, and after talking to her, she seemed to go for it. A very sweet girl. I will put some of the photos on my site so others can see but like I stated, they arent for sale.

Unless Im wrong, can you resize the photos so they still meet the ratio requirements (i.e. 8x10 5x7 4x6) using elements 5? Say I want to change the composition with a crop how do I get it to still fit the print size requirements without having fingers and such cutout?
I intend on giving her a cd of the pics.

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Mar 15, 2007 10:47 |  #2

Anyone?:D


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Mar 15, 2007 11:02 |  #3

I would think it's a little touchy, but she might have to sign some paperwork, that states that the images are yours, and that you are in no way liable. There's gotta be someone with some legalese on this situation...but I would make her sign a waiver...of some sort, so you are not held liable, if it ever comes to it.

As for the watermarks, add them to the pictures for the web, and for the ones for her CD, don't. I think that is simple enough. Oh, and you might also want to let her know, that you might be using these, on the web.

Good luck with the shoot.


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Mar 15, 2007 11:10 |  #4

Shoot for an 8x10 crop and everything else should work from there. So looking at the frame in portrait mode, you'd be losing about 10% from both the top and bottom of the frame.


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Mar 15, 2007 11:17 |  #5

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I would think it's a little touchy, but she might have to sign some paperwork, that states that the images are yours, and that you are in no way liable. There's gotta be someone with some legalese on this situation...but I would make her sign a waiver...of some sort, so you are not held liable, if it ever comes to it.

As for the watermarks, add them to the pictures for the web, and for the ones for her CD, don't. I think that is simple enough. Oh, and you might also want to let her know, that you might be using these, on the web.

Good luck with the shoot.

Yeah I told her I would put them on the web for others to see but my intentions are not to make money from them.


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Mar 15, 2007 11:40 |  #6

If I am going to have her sign a waiver should she get a copy too or is one needed just for me?


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Mar 15, 2007 11:55 |  #7

I would give her one, and keep one with you. Take a photocopy of the one that is signed by both you and her. This way, you are both safe.


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Mar 15, 2007 12:01 |  #8

MODEL RELEASE (non-commercial exchange for photographs) I _______________ (hereafter "Model"), in the interest of gaining valuable modeling experience and in exchange for photographs of myself, do hereby irrevocably authorize _______________ (hereafter "Photographer"), and those acting with Photographer's permission, to use photographs taken by Photographer of myself on the date of _______________ and derivative works based thereupon (collectively hereafter the "Photos") for all lawful purposes subject to the terms and conditions described herein.I agree that the aforementioned exchange is for photographs delivered to me by Photographer in the quantity and format described as follows: _______________ _______________ _______________.I agree that, while I may use the Photos for purposes related to the promotion of my Modeling business, including but not limited to advertising, portfolios, composite cards, exhibitions, contests, and promotional internet web sites, I will not sell publication rights in any or all of the Photos without Photographer's prior consent.Likewise, I authorize Photographer to use the Photos for purposes related to the promotion of Photographer's business, including but not limited to advertising, portfolios, composite cards, exhibitions, contests, and promotional internet web sites, but do not authorize Photographer to sell publication rights in any or all of the Photos except with my prior consent.Model hereby releases and agrees to hold harmless Photographer and those acting under his permission, from any liability by virtue of blurring, distortion, alteration, optical illusion, or use in composite form whether intentional or otherwise, that may occur or be produced in the taking of the pictures, or in any processing tending toward the completion of the finished product, unless it can be clearly shown that the foregoing was maliciously caused, and produced, and published solely for the purpose of subjecting Model to conspicuous ridicule, scandal, reproach, scorn, and indignity.Model hereby affirms that all poses, positions and situations enacted in the Photos covered in this release were entered into without force, coercion, or threat whatsoever, and were posed freely by Model with Model's full consent. Model further agrees to hold blameless and free of all accusation of such force or coercion Photographer, his legal representatives, assigns, and those acting under his permission.Model hereby affirms that his/her date of birth is _______________ and that Model is fully able to contract in his/her own name without breach of any prior agreement or applicable law, including but not limited to prior agreements with modeling and talent agencies.I have read the foregoing prior to its execution and I am fully familiar with and agree to the contents thereof.______________​_Model's signature_____________​__Signature of Model's parent or legal guardian,if model is under 18 years of age ___________ Date ___________ Date _______________ Model's mailing address


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Mar 15, 2007 12:03 |  #9

The above outline describes the arrangement, and puts a fw lines in there to outline the "trade" you can say "10 each 4x6" prints, and a CD with usable images" or whatever you want.

It isnt mine, but i copied it off a public offering, and made a couple minor changes.

Hope you can use it.

you both will sign and date both copies, you keep one and give one to her.


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Mar 15, 2007 12:20 |  #10

Here was one that looked less intimidating since she isnt using them for any type of model work.

MODEL RELEASE: ADULT

I, _______________ (Model),
for good and valuable consideration, the receipt of which
is acknowledged, give to _______________(Photog​rapher), his
legal representatives, successors, and all persons or corporations
acting with his permission, unrestricted permission to copyright
and/or use, and/or publish photographic portraits or pictures of
me, and the prints, or digital information pertaining to them, in still
format, or in which I may be included in whole or in part,
or composite, or distorted in form, or reproductions thereof, in
color or otherwise, made through any media in his studio or
elsewhere for art, or any other lawful purpose.

I hereby waive any right that I may have to inspect and
approve the finished product or copy that may be used in connection
with an image that the Photographer has taken of me, or the use to
which it may be applied.

I further release the Photographer, or others for whom he is
acting, from any claims for remuneration associated with any form
of damage, foreseen or unforseen, associated with the proper
commercial or artistic use of these images unless it can be shown
that said reproduction was maliciously caused, produced and
published for the sole purpose of subjecting me to conspicuous
ridicule, scandal, reproach, scorn and indignity.

I acknowledge that the photography session was conducted in a
completely proper and highly professional manner, and this release
was willingly signed at its termination. I certify that I am not
a minor, and am free and able to give such consent.

_______________ _______________
(Model's signature) (Date)

_______________
(Home telephone number)

Jared W. Carpenter


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Yes?No? on this one? Im wondering if it could scare her off the more technicallities I put into it. I would like it simple yet to the point.


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Mar 15, 2007 12:24 |  #11

Either one sounds good to me. Just make her feel comfortable...and I am sure all will be good. At least you have the opportunity... :) ...wish I could have done this type of stuff before I got married. Now, the wife would kick my A$$!! :)


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Mar 15, 2007 12:29 |  #12

inthedeck wrote in post #2875617 (external link)
Either one sounds good to me. Just make her feel comfortable...and I am sure all will be good. At least you have the opportunity... :) ...wish I could have done this type of stuff before I got married. Now, the wife would kick my A$$!! :)

Ive slightly altered the one Mike posted, and made it more appealing, at least what I would think to her it would be. I might merge the two a lil later who knows. Thanks.


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Mar 15, 2007 14:38 |  #13

here is the altered version.

MODEL RELEASE (non-commercial exchange for photographs)

I _______________ (Model), in the interest of gaining valuable modeling experience and in exchange for photographs of myself, do hereby irrevocably authorize _______________ (Photographer), and those acting with Photographer's permission, to use photographs taken by Photographer of myself at _______________(Locati​on) and derivative works based thereupon (collectively hereafter the "Photos") for all lawful purposes subject to the terms and conditions described herein.I agree that the aforementioned exchange is for photographs delivered to me by Photographer in the quantity and format described as follows: _______________ _______________ _______________ _______________ _______________ _______________.

I agree that I will not sell publication rights in any or all of the Photos without Photographer's prior consent.Likewise, I authorize Photographer to use the Photos for purposes related to the promotion of Photographer's business, including but not limited to advertising, portfolios, composite cards, exhibitions, contests, and promotional internet web sites, but do not authorize Photographer to sell publication rights in any or all of the Photos except with my prior consent.

Model hereby releases and agrees to hold harmless Photographer and those acting under his permission, from any liability by virtue of blurring, distortion, alteration, optical illusion, or use in composite form whether intentional or otherwise, that may occur or be produced in the taking of the pictures, or in any processing tending toward the completion of the finished product, unless it can be clearly shown that the foregoing was maliciously caused, and produced, and published solely for the purpose of subjecting Model to conspicuous ridicule, scandal, reproach, scorn, and indignity

.Model hereby affirms that all poses, positions and situations enacted in the Photos covered in this release were entered into without force, coercion, or threat whatsoever, and were posed freely by Model with Model's full consent.

Model further agrees to hold blameless and free of all accusation of such force or coercion Photographer, his legal representatives, assigns, and those acting under his permission.

Model hereby affirms that his/her date of birth is _______________ and that Model is fully able to contract in his/her own name without breach of any prior agreement or applicable law, including but not limited to prior agreements with modeling and talent agencies.

I have read the foregoing prior to its execution and I am fully familiar with and agree to the contents thereof.

Model's signature_____________​__

Photographer's signature_____________​__


_______________ Model's mailing address


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Mar 16, 2007 13:35 |  #14

Don't forget a date line. I know you meant for both people to date it on the sig line but put a date line so you don't forget to put the date.

Howabout letting her get prints made for herself or family or boyfreind? She might have a problem if she tries to get them printed at walmart.

And if I tried this, my wife wouldn't kick my @$$, she'd kick me in the crotch.




  
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