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Mar 16, 2007 02:42 |  #1

Hi I was wondering how the technique in this picture

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using a 580 ex was made. It looks like she is lit by the sun rather than an external flash. Would I need gels or would I be able to get this effect from the camera.flash itself?



  
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Mar 16, 2007 03:17 |  #2

Flash off camera, probabely into an umbrella.
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Mar 16, 2007 03:17 |  #3

i don't think it's just the flash technique in this, looks like some clever pp as well.


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Mar 19, 2007 00:27 as a reply to  @ bundybear's post |  #4

that site helped a lot actualy rene. thank you!




  
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Mar 19, 2007 20:43 |  #5

Could be a pop off a gold reflector, I'd recommend getting a few CTO (Color Temperature Orange) gels to warm up your image. For $0.01 you can't go wrong. This sample pack is easily modified to fit over the 580ex. I cut mine to the inner bevel of the 580ex unit so I can place the lightsphere over it, others have used other smart ideas to get the gel to sit over the flash - including bent paperclips.

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Mar 20, 2007 19:41 |  #6

Thats my guess as well. An off camera flash, some diffusion based on the shadow edge transfer, and a bit of warming to help match the color. Look at Stephen Kennedy's stuff, he using that technique all the time (http://www.StephenKenn​edy.com (external link))


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Mar 20, 2007 19:45 |  #7

sfaust wrote in post #2903724 (external link)
Thats my guess as well. An off camera flash, some diffusion based on the shadow edge transfer, and a bit of warming to help match the color. Look at Stephen Kennedy's stuff, he using that technique all the time (http://www.StephenKenn​edy.com (external link))

Hi Stephen,

Can you elaborate a little on what you mean by 'shadow edge transfer' ?


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Mar 20, 2007 20:00 |  #8

Sorry. Shadow edge transfer is the transition between from the light to the shadow. If its very harsh, its typically from a point source with no diffusion. If the transfer is very soft, its usually from a very diffused light source. Looking at the shadows under her chin, along her pigtails, etc, it appears that there is some diffusion. Not a lot, but some. Similar to what I get with a small softbox used very close to the subject.


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Mar 20, 2007 20:11 as a reply to  @ sfaust's post |  #9

Thank you much Stephen.


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Mar 20, 2007 20:25 |  #10

Not a problem Robert. If you want more info, you can read the sample chapter in this book.

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The terms were used by Dean Collins back in the 80's as a way to standardize lighting terminology so that it would easier to teach. It's always stuck with me, and is now widely used. Its a shame he passed away recently. He was a wonderful educator and excellent photographer, and is missed by many.


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