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Aqua2102
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Feb 11, 2005 13:25 |  #16

Errr... yes of course.

But I meant Canon photo paper. That is ironically the only type for which I can't find the profiles (except by installing the i960 drivers as suggested above).

Sorry. Should have been a little bit clearer on that.

Thanks anyway for the tip.
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devilwoman
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Feb 17, 2005 19:39 |  #17

This is unbelievable...I just posted a thread about black and white and I downloaded one of the icc profiles for the canon paper and printed a black and white and it was pretty close to perfect. Amazing!!! So how can someone get icc of other types of paper? Who does these profiles? Hope someone knows? Thanks. And thanks for this post.




  
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devilwoman
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Feb 22, 2005 15:09 as a reply to  @ devilwoman's post |  #18

devilwoman wrote:
This is unbelievable...I just posted a thread about black and white and I downloaded one of the icc profiles for the canon paper and printed a black and white and it was pretty close to perfect. Amazing!!! So how can someone get icc of other types of paper? Who does these profiles? Hope someone knows? Thanks. And thanks for this post.

Now however I am unable to reproduce what I just got. Now everything is coming out with a greenish tone...someone stop the madness!!!




  
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Feb 22, 2005 17:37 as a reply to  @ devilwoman's post |  #19

devilwoman wrote:
This is unbelievable...I just posted a thread about black and white and I downloaded one of the icc profiles for the canon paper and printed a black and white and it was pretty close to perfect. Amazing!!! So how can someone get icc of other types of paper? Who does these profiles? Hope someone knows? Thanks. And thanks for this post.

Usually the paper company. Do a Google search for the paper that you want, and they usually have the profiles for their paper on their web site. That's how I got the ICC's for Canon, Ilford, and Kodak papers.


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Feb 27, 2005 10:18 as a reply to  @ johnleveritt's post |  #20

I have printed a number of test images on a Canon i9900, and I think that I have identified how some of the mysterious settings in the Properties/Preferences dialogs relate to color management (CM). Even though I believe that this summary is correct, I may have missed something, so please feel free to comment if your experience is different than mine. It would be great to have an accurate summary of how to manage color on these printers.

Canon’s Easy PhotoPrint (EPP) does not appear to use anything other than the driver settings (port assignment, etc.) in the Properties/Preferences dialogs. This includes the color adjustments in Preferences – they have no effect in EPP. There is no way to tell if the ICC profiles are being applied in EPP or in the driver, but the following .icc profiles are defined and used by the i9900:
Paper Type ICC Profile
PP Pro (Quality 1) CNB5pCA0 (Canon i9900 PR1)
PP Pro (Quality 2) CNB5pCB0 (Canon i9900 PR2)
PP Plus Glossy CNB5pEA0 (Canon i9900 SP1)
Matte PP CNB5pDA0 (Canon i9900 MP1)
Glossy PP CNBJPRN2 (BJ Color Printer Profile 2000)

When printing using PS’s CM (or any other printing program with CM), the printer’s CM must be turned off to prevent double profiling. Select PreferencesèMainèColor AdjustmentèManualèSet… Disable ICM and set the “Print Type” to “None”. As with EPP, the color adjustments in Preferences have no effect when "None" is selected.

It is possible to use CM with Microsoft’s Photo Printing Wizard (PPW) (or PS without CM), but it is a little more involved. Select PreferencesèMainèColor AdjustmentèManualèSet… Enable ICM. Note that the color adjustments on this page WILL affect the color of the finished print when using PPW. It is also necessary to select the desired ICC profile in PropertiesèColor Management. Note that on shared printers this information can only be changed on the server, as it will be grayed out on other computers. If “Automatic” is selected, the ICC profile will be selected based on the paper and quality settings (but why go to all this trouble just to use the default profiles?). If “Manual” is selected, the profile selected as the “default” will be used. It is easy to add other profiles and make them the default, but it is a little dangerous in that these settings are global for all users and somewhat hidden.

Miscellaneous
The default Glossy PP profile gives only minor color shifts (it is only 17 KB vs. 322 KB for the other profiles) - try it with PS’s “Proof Setup”. The 4 profiles for Canon paper have a major color shift compared to Glossy PP, but minor shifts relative to each other. Either the Canon papers really affect the color or Canon wants to discourage the use of other papers.

In the original post, option #1 makes sense as long as “Automatic” is selected in PropertiesèColor Management and the proper paper is specified so the driver uses the correct profile. Option # 2 also makes sense, as selecting “None” turns off CM by the driver.

Comments/Corrections??


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May 05, 2005 14:13 |  #21

I note that PS-CS2 has made some changes in "Print with Preview" that affect the way PwP was previously used. Any comments from the printer experts?


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May 05, 2005 22:53 |  #22

I was also getting some green tinted prints. The problem was solved when I started using Canon Easy-PhotoPrint as my printing program. I haven't had a color problem since. I shoot RAW, processs in Adoble Elements 3, and convert to JPEG for printing on the i9100. This system works with both PC and OS X operating systems and I don't have to mess around with any profiles.




  
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May 15, 2005 12:00 |  #23

Well I am happy to find this thread. I use the Canon S820 printer. I also do all of my photo imaging work on my laptop, connected wirelessly to the main pc which has the connection to the printer. I have a couple of questions, when I print (whter using Canon easyprint, or from photoshop) I am calling up the preferences for the driver on the main system Right? Do I keep the ICC profiles on the main system with the printer, or do I load them on my laptop where I do all my work? Also, do you think i960 drivers/profiles will work with the s820?
thanks for any advise, I am about 2 on a scale of 10 on the digital printing learning curve, Thinking about trying Qimage for all printing.?


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May 20, 2005 08:54 |  #24

The printer I have is a Canon i950.

I created a profile using Profile prism. Usually perfect when printing with QImage.

I printed ex Word the test image (girl and dog) with ICM checked
on the printer and the profile set via Printer Color management
properties. The test picture was resized ex QImage and added to word
document by insert picture.

The result had a red cast on the grays, oversaturated reds and
undersaturated blues.

Does word use colour management when icm checked in the printer settings?
>
> Has anyone tried to get colours right out of Microsoft word? I am
> trying to print a book that has coloured pictures embedded in it.




  
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Jun 09, 2005 12:34 as a reply to  @ Barry88's post |  #25

I'm still a little confused about the whole thing. I have Monaco's Profiler and created a printer profile for my Canon Pixma iP8500 (for the Photo Paper Pro media). The printer installation software also loads in some other (5 in all) ICC profiles but for what media they are I do not know.

When I go to the Printer properties in the Control Panel in Windows, under Color Management should I select "Auto" or "Manual" with the Monaco ICC print profile I created? It seems to give better results with "Auto" but that goes against creating the profile. I guess I could have the wrong settings in the Printer properties within the Canon software but I see that previous posts have recommended settings.

Also where can I get ICC profiles for the Canon paper? I can't find them on the web site.




  
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Jun 30, 2005 16:19 |  #26

I have a canon ip3000. does this do anthing for me?




  
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Jul 03, 2005 17:00 |  #27

Hi
I reckon without proper monitor calibration you are chasing your tail , you manipulate and color correct images looking at your monitor and if its not calibrated you are not seeing what is really there and neither is your printer .
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Jul 11, 2005 12:47 |  #28

I just recently started using Ilford Gallery Classic Pearl paper, and found an ICC profile that makes it work BEAUTIFULLY on my Canon i9100 printer. I tried the ones right from Ilford, and didn't care for the color cast. This one came from the sticky post at the top of this forum:
http://www.wandb.com/i​cc.htm (external link)
I downloaded the one for Ilford Classic Pearl, and it is teh best I haev used. I love the results!


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Jul 11, 2005 14:53 as a reply to  @ SWPhotoImaging's post |  #29

I have ip5000 and couldn't fine anything about color profile anywhere, I notice there are several from canon in setup,... thanks alot, will go home and paly with setting


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Jul 26, 2005 07:31 |  #30

I got a i9950 yesterday , but I can't get expected colors from it though I calibrate my monitor carefully with I1 display II. I read this thread and others helpful articals ,and I tried almost all methods ,but I failed.

when I check the preview image on the screen which I get from the "PRINT WITH PREVIEW" , I am surprised to see its colors are very different from the image in the window of Photoshop cs2. when I print the image ,the result has the same colors as the preview image but it's far from the image showed in the
Photoshop window . Why ?

how can I get an image that its color is the same as the pic showed on the screen? I am looking forward your help .THX.




  
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