STICKY:  Color problems? [work in progress?]

Thanks René - will it sounds good then! I will check the settings for document information and change it from file size to working space, and also check to make sure that Photoshop is indeed displaying in Adobe RGB (that's what I told it to do in preferences so it better be!!!).

Cheers!!!

Dave

Hi René and thanks for all your hard work.

I have a calibrated monitor (Eye-One2) and i just need confirmation of
my settings please.

As the picture of your PS settings is missing (see quote) if i understand it correct my setting in PS CS2/3 should be the following

Custom
Working Spaces
RGB: sRGB (this is where im unsure, should this be my monitor profile?)
CMYK: Us Web Coated (Swop)v2
Gray: Gray Gamma 2.2
Spot: Dot Gain 20%
Color Management Policies
RGB - CMYK - GRAY : All set to Preserve Embedded Profiles
The 3 "boxes" : All unchecked
Conversion Options
Engine : Adobe (ACE)
Intent: Relative Colorimetric
The 2 "boxes": Checked

René Damkot wrote in post #2941196
Start off (after calibrating your monitor) by setting Photoshops color settings something like this (click image to enlarge):

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Thanks for taking your time René!!!

Sorry, server seems to be down atm...

RGB: Do not set your monitor profile. Set a working space. (sRGB, AdobeRGB or ProPhotoRGB for instance)
The policies 'boxes': Check at least the last two.
Intent: Either relative colorimetric or perceptual.

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When browsing through my monitor color settings, it has an sRGB mode. When this is selected, it locks my contrast (at 70) and brightness (at 100). Is this normal? i cannot afford a calibrating device at this time and am trying to ensure that my pictures wont look nice only on my screen. But with these two settings locked, i cannot adjust for gamma :\

I don't know your monitor, so I don't know Cheapest "calibration" option is to use Adobe Gamma or something similair (like the OSX 'built in' application)...

Just so I do understand, after all the work in PS and then the save for the web in srgb, I'll still need to tweek things to get the best viewing representation of the printed version? Thanks

Not sure I understand the question....

Say you are working in AdobeRGB. Then you'ld want to save an sRGB copy for web, and use the (AdobeRGB) original for printing...

You can save a copy of that one after soft proofing (and correcting) for the printers profile. The original file should stay untouched IMO.

Hi,

I have a Q, this has probably already been asked anyway. I'll start by explaining. I have been using Windows up until now and I do a lot of web design and graphic design etc. On my windows monitors there was no difference in colour saturation from save as and save for web so I used save for web for graphics and such. I'm now on a Mac and I can see the difference, now it's bugging me.

I've been through your first post, calibrated my display on the Mac, everything looks nice in that respect. I shoot JPEG and my cameras are set as sRGB already so when I check my profiles they're OK for that, although save for web still showing a lot of saturation loss. It's the same no matter if I convert the profiles first from sRGB to aRGB or vice versa. The save for web feature still looks poor compared after. Now I don't want to use it no more but I do like the way it optimises so wondering if there is a workaround for making it ok again (not that it wasn't anyway, because I never noticed the loss of colours on the Windows machine).

Thanks. Have attached a pic open in photoshop and then the save for web feature. You can especially see the orange of the flames and plastic barrier their up against is gone, and the pink of the coat and green of the other coat etc too.

image is here > http://www.lisacleverl​ey.com/temp/colorprobl​ems.jpg

Lisa - within the Save for Web screen, be sure that you have selected the "Use Document Color Profile" option. You can find it by clicking the wee arrow button near the Save button.

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Athena wrote in post #4266476
Lisa - within the Save for Web screen, be sure that you have selected the "Use Document Color Profile" option. You can find it by clicking the wee arrow button near the Save button.

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Ohhhhh awesome!!!!!!! Thanks ever so much. I never noticed that little arrow there before Does it save that as a preference now I used it or do I have to keep checking it like that everytime?

Thanks ever so much though. Can't believe it's been awful colour like that for years now and didn't realise d'oh!

::Lisa:: wrote in post #4271148
Ohhhhh awesome!!!!!!! Thanks ever so much. I never noticed that little arrow there before

Then you didn't read post #1 thoroughly

::Lisa:: wrote in post #4271148
or do I have to keep checking it like that everytime?

The setting in there is the same one you used the last time you saved for web AFAIK.

René Damkot wrote in post #4275522
Then you didn't read post #1 thoroughly


The setting in there is the same one you used the last time you saved for web AFAIK.

Yes you're right René. I think a matter of being overwhelmed with it all tbh lol. Thanks for the awesome tutorial. It's nice to get an understanding of everything that ensures your pictures are saved in the colour they were created, and especially knowing more from how the program (Photoshop) works itself, thanks again (for everything) Since you've helped me in the past too with getting watermarks in the right place.

This is a great post. I wish I had read it sooner!

René,

Thank you for putting this together, and to the other posters who shared their experiences with colour management.

I had attempted to calibrate my monitor and printer before, and quite frankly, did a pi$$ poor job of it. I needed your insights and G. Ballard's repetitive-drill-it-into-my-thick-skull approach for it to sink in.

The difference that Safari makes when viewing images with profiles embedded on a colour-managed browser are incredible. Cosworth's examples in the first page really opened my eyes when I installed Safari on Vista.

You're welcome! Glad it helped