I see a lot of people attach copyright notice to their works. Images, software etc.
I guess a lot of these are not properly copyrighted, is it legal?
cpc1225 Member 52 posts Joined Apr 2003 Location: 15 Km from KLCC More info | Apr 13, 2004 03:45 | #1 I see a lot of people attach copyright notice to their works. Images, software etc. ezez, take it easy ...
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thomascanty Bold. Pink.Gone, but not forgotten. 38,071 posts Likes: 2 Joined Mar 2003 Location: Temporarily Retired More info | Apr 13, 2004 04:09 | #2 An image is copyrighted the second you trip the shutter. It doesn't have to be filed with the government to be valid. In other words, of course it's legal. Copyright is secured automatically when the work is created, and a work is "created" when it is fixed in a copy or phonorecord for the first time. My name is Lonnie, but I answer to Thomas too.
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Apr 13, 2004 17:17 | #3 I have asked this before but there was no answer. ezez, take it easy ...
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IndyJeff Goldmember 1,892 posts Likes: 9 Joined Oct 2003 Location: Indianapolis, IN More info | Apr 13, 2004 18:16 | #4 The owner of the building may not own the copyright to the building, more likely the designer does. You can take a picture of the building but you can't do anything with it, unless it is an editorial use. On shooting sports...If you see it happen then you didn't get it.
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scotgasch Senior Member 463 posts Joined Mar 2003 Location: Texas More info | Apr 13, 2004 18:31 | #5 IndyJeff wrote: However, the owner may still have the right to say, don't take a picture of my building. It is private property. Although this is true you can, however, stand on public property (ie. the street) and take all the pictures you want. There are two kinds of photographers...the ones who screw up; and the ones who are about to...
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Penguin_101_1 Goldmember 1,259 posts Joined Feb 2004 More info | Apr 13, 2004 19:10 | #6 Permanent banWhat about a picture of the St. Louis arch?
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IndyJeff Goldmember 1,892 posts Likes: 9 Joined Oct 2003 Location: Indianapolis, IN More info | Apr 13, 2004 20:51 | #7 scotgasch, who owns Texas A&M university? Is it a public or private entity? On shooting sports...If you see it happen then you didn't get it.
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richpix Member 110 posts Joined Mar 2004 Location: On the road, somewhere in the USA. More info | Apr 13, 2004 21:41 | #8 Penguin_101_1 wrote: What about a picture of the St. Louis arch? Owned by the National Park Service, therefore no copyright--photograph away.
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richpix Member 110 posts Joined Mar 2004 Location: On the road, somewhere in the USA. More info | Apr 13, 2004 21:45 | #9 cpc1225 wrote: I have asked this before but there was no answer. We usually shoot on buildings without asking for permission. Can the owner of the building claim the right of the photo if we shoot on their building without permission ? Yes, and no. Read more and find a property release form here:
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FocalSpeed Member 96 posts Joined Jan 2004 More info | Apr 13, 2004 21:48 | #10 So if you stand on public property and take a picture of a private property you could sell the picture without getting permission?
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richpix Member 110 posts Joined Mar 2004 Location: On the road, somewhere in the USA. More info | Apr 13, 2004 21:57 | #11 FocalSpeed wrote: So if you stand on public property and take a picture of a private property you could sell the picture without getting permission? Yes, unless the private propery is trademarked or copyrighted, and even then you might get away with it. Despite the great amount of words written in copyright and trademark law there are a lot of 18% grey areas--it often comes down to how the judge is feeling that morning. Turd in Wheaties = bad news. Happy tryst with mistress = good news.
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IndyJeff Goldmember 1,892 posts Likes: 9 Joined Oct 2003 Location: Indianapolis, IN More info | Apr 13, 2004 22:13 | #12 FocalSpeed wrote: So if you stand on public property and take a picture of a private property you could sell the picture without getting permission? I don't think that is right tho. I was surprised at the finding involving the Rock & Roll HoF and the postcard. I would really like to read the opinions of the court decision on that one. On shooting sports...If you see it happen then you didn't get it.
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stopbath Goldmember 1,537 posts Likes: 2 Joined Jul 2003 More info | Apr 14, 2004 08:02 | #13 I think if an image is available to the public view (celebrity walking on the sidewalk, car driven on the road, building visable from the road) any capture of that image is sellable without restraint by the public. (ignoring issues of "national security')
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IndyJeff Goldmember 1,892 posts Likes: 9 Joined Oct 2003 Location: Indianapolis, IN More info | Apr 14, 2004 16:08 | #14 stopbath wrote: I think if an image is available to the public view (celebrity walking on the sidewalk, car driven on the road, building visable from the road) any capture of that image is sellable without restraint by the public. (ignoring issues of "national security') That all depends on your meaning of sellable. If you are selling it for editorial use you are ok. Any other sale is probably not legal. Any photo shoot image is bound to the contract between the subject or the owner of the subject (person, car, building...) and the photographer. Correct Any image obtained on private property without permission is subject to lawers getting messy with it. Most definately. So if I purchased a car, I could take pictures of it and sell the pictures of it. Depends on how you sell it. A car has a copyright or possibly a trademark and you couldn't market that image without permission of the manufacturer. But if I borrowed a car from a friend, it would be up to my friend if I could sell the image. If I saw my friends car parked at the curb, it would be fair game. If the dealer owned it, the dealer or the car maker would decide how I could sell the image of their car... Your friend or dealer neither one are probably the owner to the rights of the car so they would have no say so. The manufacturer, well now there is someone who would have a say so. This is just my opinion and is not based on experience with the law. On shooting sports...If you see it happen then you didn't get it.
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PhotosGuy Cream of the Crop, R.I.P. More info | Apr 14, 2004 20:19 | #15 The sad fact is that anyone can sue you anytime for anything. Doesn't mean that they'll win, but you'll have to pay a lawyer to represent you. So, you lose either way. FrankC - 20D, RAW, Manual everything...
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