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Apr 10, 2007 04:55 |  #1

Hi guys and girls,

I am interested in those better at math than I working out how far away I was from the crab in this photo:

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Assume the crab is 2" across the body (based on the nearby snail).

I'm trying to work out how far it was away, because I am impressed with the quality and, while trying to explain to people, I was curious as to how you could work this out (assuming you can).

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Apr 10, 2007 05:20 |  #2

My estimation is that the crab is depicted at about 1:7 at 105 mm, which equates to about 96 cm distance to the sensor, so let's say 1 m.

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Apr 10, 2007 05:26 |  #3

Thanks wimg, I won't argue with you, but I thought it was more. Oh well, there goes that theory :)


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Apr 10, 2007 08:12 |  #4

My analysis says about the same as WImg...I scaled the crab on my screen, I scaled the full photo width on my screen. Based upon your estimate of 2" crab body, the photo spans a 30" length. Assuming 105mm on 5D, that works out to about 95" shooting distance


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Apr 10, 2007 08:15 |  #5

Let's see if we can guess how close was I to this?

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Apr 10, 2007 08:16 as a reply to  @ SimonBl's post |  #6

here is bigger pic:

and all the exif info:
Date/Time04-Mar-2007 13:19:49MakeCanonModel​Canon EOS 30DFlash UsedNoFocal Length70 mmExposure Time1/250 secAperturef/5.6ISO Equivalent200Exposure BiasWhite BalanceMetering Mode(-1)JPEG QualityExposure Programaperture priority (3)Focus Distance


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Apr 10, 2007 09:02 |  #7

Wilt wrote in post #3015889 (external link)
My analysis says about the same as WImg...I scaled the crab on my screen, I scaled the full photo width on my screen. Based upon your estimate of 2" crab body, the photo spans a 30" length. Assuming 105mm on 5D, that works out to about 95" shooting distance

Thanks Wilt, I'll defer to you guys' calculations. I'll check next time I'm back there :).

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Apr 10, 2007 11:32 |  #8

grinchy wrote in post #3015904 (external link)
Let's see if we can guess how close was I to this?

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I would say in most circumstaces....too close! I don't trust those guys and their friends lurking near by. Do you have a rear view mirror on your camera?:D ;)


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Apr 10, 2007 16:49 |  #9

SimonBl wrote in post #3015392 (external link)
Thanks wimg, I won't argue with you, but I thought it was more. Oh well, there goes that theory :)

Sorry, just realized I took lifesize of crab, to compare magnification, so my calculations are off a factor of 2 or thereabouts.

Ok, again.

Crab is 2", or 50 mm. I took it that the legs were included in this, not just the shell. Crab is about 1/7 of total picture width. So the picture then has a size of about 14 ", or approx. 350 mm.

Sensor width is 24 mm, 350 mm / 24 mm = 14.6, let's say 15 to make things easier. This means that magnification is 1 : 15, not my earlier 1 : 7. This could actually be implied from the fact that the crab was about 2 inches, and the sensor is about 1 inch :).

Anyway, this means the distance to the sensor was approximately 1792 or 1800 mm, or roughly 6 feet.

Sorry to have misled you.:oops: I do have to admit I was in a rush, on my way out, when I saw your post. :)

BTW, if the carapace only of the crab was 2 inch, it was even further away. In that case, the width of the picture is about 34 inches, and magnification about 1 : 70, which means at 105 mm a distance to the sensor of about 7.5 m, or 25 feet.

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Apr 10, 2007 16:53 |  #10

grinchy wrote in post #3015910 (external link)
here is bigger pic:
and all the exif info:
Date/Time04-Mar-2007 13:19:49MakeCanonModel​Canon EOS 30DFlash UsedNoFocal Length70 mmExposure Time1/250 secAperturef/5.6ISO Equivalent200Exposure BiasWhite BalanceMetering Mode(-1)JPEG QualityExposure Programaperture priority (3)Focus Distance

Sorry, Grinchy, can't help you here, as the Focus Distance has fallen away. Considering it was taken at 70 mm, I would agree with JMW: too close! ;)

Kind regards, Wim


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Apr 11, 2007 06:04 |  #11

wimg wrote in post #3018369 (external link)
BTW, if the carapace only of the crab was 2 inch, it was even further away. In that case, the width of the picture is about 34 inches, and magnification about 1 : 70, which means at 105 mm a distance to the sensor of about 7.5 m, or 25 feet.

Aha, I did mean the carapace only (but couldn't remember what it was called) and I am a LOT happier with that distance. It was a looong way down in a crevice. The snail was about 1" (25mm) in size (comapred to others around), so that feels good to me.

Many thanks for the 2nd look :p.

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Apr 11, 2007 06:04 |  #12

wimg wrote in post #3018390 (external link)
Considering it was taken at 70 mm, I would agree with JMW: too close! ;)

And I, for 3, agree!


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Apr 11, 2007 08:45 |  #13

I know it was WAY to close for my comfort....believe it or not that gator actually came out of the water and charged at me up the bank...I nearly jumped right out of my shoes and proceeded to run a 2.2 40 yd dash...


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