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Fill Flash - 5D & 1D Mark IIn & 580EX - Bright Sun

 
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Apr 18, 2007 13:49 |  #1

Here is the challenge my shooting friends. I have custom function set on both bodies at Cfn 4 - 1.

On my 1D Mark IIn I follow these steps to get an image which is back lit and the subject needs fill flash.



Shooting in AV Mode, Raw, high speed sync turned on the 580, use "*" to focus - then hit the "fel" button to sample the subject for flash. Meter (spot meter) the sky or something 18% gray, recompose and shoot. I have FEC at -2/3 stop (this would be subjective I'm sure). I end up with very good images.

The trouble I'm having is when I use the 5D I don't have a "fel" button so I must disable Cfn 4-1 to Cfn 4-0. When doing this now I must focus and set exposure with the shutter release. So while in Av Mode how in the heck can I expose off the bright sky, focus on the subject, sample flash the subject and get both the sky at a good exposure and the subject....

Curious minds want to know.


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Apr 18, 2007 13:51 |  #2

M mode, set the flash to ettl. M mode meters for sky. You can dial FEC to what you desire. AV mode metering is as jittery as a 4 year old on sugar at a birthday party.


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Apr 18, 2007 14:18 |  #3

cosworth wrote in post #3063940 (external link)
M mode, set the flash to ettl. M mode meters for sky. You can dial FEC to what you desire. AV mode metering is as jittery as a 4 year old on sugar at a birthday party.

Thank you.....

Dwight is here with me in Texas and he said you are the master.

I will now change my process on my 1D Mark IIn and my 5D to do what you suggest........sometim​es I feel like an idiot....why did I not think to do it this way?

So as I type without thinking, how can I do this where I pre test the flash and keep Cfn 4-1? Should I not worry about pre testing the flash?


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Apr 18, 2007 14:25 |  #4

taygull wrote in post #3064058 (external link)
Dwight is here with me in Texas and he said you are the master.

Whoa. Never been called that. If I remember half the stuff I was doing in the caribbean I'd be amazed. :P thanks to you and Dwight for the compliment. You made my day.

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I never use FEL. I just metered for the sky and shot with the flash on ETTL. Now, my old 1Ds doesn't have ettl II, so when I used CF4 I could capitalize on all the 45 points. Using focus recompose only used the highlighted focus points for flash metering. Once I started using all 45 points for ETTL metering my shots were extra consistent. Your bodies do have ETTL II so it should be a touch easier. Now take this all with a grain salt as well due to my liberal use of polarizers.


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Apr 18, 2007 14:37 |  #5

How can I do this with the 430EX?
When I have the flash on the shutter speed is at 200.


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Apr 18, 2007 14:42 |  #6

Enable high speed sync. Ideally you shouldn't see more than 1/250th or 1/320th and f/8. If you can limit your ISO and filter strength (CPL) to ge to these you'll like the results.


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Apr 18, 2007 14:56 |  #7

cosworth wrote in post #3064195 (external link)
Enable high speed sync. Ideally you shouldn't see more than 1/250th or 1/320th and f/8. If you can limit your ISO and filter strength (CPL) to ge to these you'll like the results.

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