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POLL: "Which Flash Unit would you pick when used with an MP-E 65"
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MP-E 65 Macro Lens - Which Flash?

 
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Sep 14, 2007 03:19 |  #16

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Sep 14, 2007 04:35 |  #17

Thanks for the input.




  
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Sep 14, 2007 05:45 |  #18

StealthLude,
I also use the 580ex with my MP-E 65 f/2.8 and I agree 100% with LordV. It just isn't worth the cost for me. With a 580ex you have more control of the light on the subject, the MR-14 & MT-24 are better for flat objects where no shadows are wanted. However for me I naturally see shadows on insects, flowers etc... so I like to replicate what I see.


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Sep 14, 2007 07:36 |  #19

But how do you focus in extreme conditions [x5 for example] ?




  
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Sep 14, 2007 09:33 as a reply to  @ roli_bark's post |  #20

Doesn't the MT24EX come with preview focusing incandescent lights already?


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Sep 14, 2007 11:25 |  #21

Samdiver74 wrote in post #3928686 (external link)
Doesn't the MT24EX come with preview focusing incandescent lights already?

Yes I think it does.
But the question of preview focussing light was refered to John_B who uses 580 regular flash.




  
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Sep 14, 2007 12:37 |  #22

MR 14EX has preview lights but they go out far too quickly when searching for focus at high mag.


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Sep 14, 2007 12:43 as a reply to  @ racketman's post |  #23

mt24-ex has many settings..and if your on the move then its great..its not true what John_B...mt24-ex has custom ratios so u can make 1 of the flash heads fire before the other making a shadow..dalantech simpley moves the flash heads to a L shape..go look at his pics..;) all with mt24-ex

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Sep 14, 2007 17:06 |  #24

macro junkie,
I meant more control over where to place the light. As in angle or placement, I have even used the flash as a back light.

roli_bark,
Yes at times it can be a little bit hard to focus but luckily I usually grab it enough to not need another $650 flash.


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Sep 14, 2007 17:25 |  #25

Here are two examples on how I find the 580ex more valuable then the much more expensive mt24-ex with the MP-E 65 f/2.8 lens (to me).


Purple Opening

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I am not saying the MT24-EX isn't good, just that I find its not needed or worth it to me for its cost.

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Sep 15, 2007 00:37 |  #26

John_B wrote in post #3931170 (external link)
roli_bark,
Yes at times it can be a little bit hard to focus but luckily I usually grab it enough to not need another $650 flash.

Can you describe how you focus in extreme low light (x 5 magnification) ?




  
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Sep 15, 2007 06:38 |  #27

roli_bark,
By looking through the viewfinder and moving the camera. When I tried my MP-E 65 f/2.8 with my 2xTC in a dim lit room I used a flash light to help light up the subject to get it focused, as the 2xTC really took light away.


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Sep 15, 2007 06:43 |  #28

StealthLude wrote in post #3069257 (external link)
I do have a set of sto-fens....

I really want the MR-14EX too, it creates a very cool effect for macro.

Which do you think you might like more?

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Sep 15, 2007 09:55 |  #29

John_B wrote in post #3934542 (external link)
I used a flash light to help light up the subject to get it focused, as the 2xTC really took light away.

Excuse me, but I don't get it. Is the 'Flash Light' duration long enough to maintain a 3 to 5 seconds focus tuning ?




  
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Sep 15, 2007 10:13 |  #30

roli_bark,
:lol: No I meant a Flash Light :lol:

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