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Quality of x1.4 or x2 convertors on Canon 100-400 IS L ?

 
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Apr 27, 2004 09:13 |  #16

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I'd like to ask a different question on a related matter. When using the 1.4X II with the 100-400, I noticed that focus confirmation light does not come on when focusing manually as it does when using the extender with, say, the 70-200 f/2.8 in MF mode. Is this normal?

It should always work with the 70-200 f/2.8 since you're only at f/4. But on the 100-400 you're now at f/8, over the 10D limit of f/5.6 for AF.

But you probably already knew that.

For me, I find the 100-400 + 1.4 TC to be hit or miss with the confirmation light. I don't trust the focus confirmation light with this setup anyway (from some tests I did last week on a cormorant). It's VERY difficult to manually focus the 100-400 + 1.4 on a 10D unless you have great light and/or eyesight.

Yes I knew about the autofocus not working. AAMOF, I posted something about that earlier in the thread. What I was asking about was the confirmation light when using the 1.4 extender with the 100-400. I don't get any confirmation light at all. Not even a beep when the extender is on. So I was asking if that is normal with the 100-400 and 1.4 combo.

I know the autofocus won't work but I was hoping that at least the confirmation light and the beep would still be available. :(


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Apr 27, 2004 10:04 |  #17

Leo, I should have made myself more clear, too. Sometimes the light comes on. Sometimes it doesn't. It doesn't seem to have anything to do with focus - I've gotten the light and a blurry picture, and I've gotten "sharp" images without getting the confirmation light.

It might have something to do with the actual size and shape of the AF, maybe?

But you never get the confirmation light.... That's weird.


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Apr 27, 2004 11:00 |  #18

As a matter of passing interest,

which two contacts do you tape over to get AF back?

I heard of the trick but dont know which contacts it is.

By the way just did a quick test

EOS D30 100- 400L IS and Canon 1.4 TC - definitely no AF, not even the confirmatory beep.




  
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Apr 27, 2004 13:00 |  #19

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Autofocus works with the 100-400 and the 1.4x, it does not work with the 2x. I use the 1.4x all the time, rarely use the 2x.

I read the Canon specs that AutoFocus would NOT work even with the 1.4x + 100-400. (following from http://www.usa.canon.c​om/html/eflenses/ (external link))

EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS USM 140 ~ 560 6.7 ~ 54*1 0.28 O*4*5 (O =possible X =impossible)

*4 AF is ONLY possible with the EOS-1v and EOS-3 cameras, ONLY when using the center focusing point.

I assumed since they didn't list the 10D, the 10D wouldn't work with the 1.4x. Perhaps I'm reading it wrong. Are you using the tape on the contacts to get AutoFocus to work?


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Apr 27, 2004 15:40 |  #20

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Mind you, I could buy a 100ft 12mm rope, harness, couple of crabs and a figure of eight and abseil down to the nest and use my 50mm lens. :roll:

That takes me back to my much younger and stupid days (now just older, still stupid) when I used to rock climb in North Wales. I would bug the heck out of my friends on a face trying to get good shots of them in tricky situations. Now I prefer to hang around in bars instead of rock faces.

Post your results, should be interesting.


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Apr 27, 2004 16:17 |  #21

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That takes me back to my much younger and stupid days (now just older, still stupid) when I used to rock climb in North Wales. I would bug the heck out of my friends on a face trying to get good shots of them in tricky situations. Now I prefer to hang around in bars instead of rock faces.

Post your results, should be interesting.

North Wales ? Pah, you soft southern jessie. Real men climb in the Peak District or the Lakes. :wink:

I used to climb everyday up in Borrowdale when I was young and stupid. Used to be able to lead E3 (or whatever they call it these days). Used to love it, but before my days using cameras (which I still regret).

I'll post some comparisons up once the x2 arrives (tommorrow hopefully). Thanks for the advice Kenny. :)

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Apr 27, 2004 16:28 |  #22

I got my 1D MKII yesterday and today I was playing with the 100-400L with a 1.4II TC and lo and behold, the autofocus works without any tape.




  
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Apr 27, 2004 20:02 |  #23

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I actually need something like a 1400mm lens for the shot I'm after (rare birds of prey on their nest 300ft up a rock face), but I'm happy to have less as long as the quality of output is good enough to enlarge afterwards.

Ian

Just curious - has anyone considered digiscoping for that extra reach?


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Apr 28, 2004 10:27 |  #24

Is there such a thing as an MTF for a lens+TC combo? Does Canon publish them? Does anyone actually do the tests? ?


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Apr 28, 2004 16:25 |  #25

gordeaux wrote:
I read the Canon specs that AutoFocus would NOT work even with the 1.4x + 100-400. (following from http://www.usa.canon.c​om/html/eflenses/ (external link))

What I find interesting from this same chart is that the 400 f5.6L is shown as AF working with the 1.4x without qualification. Big question is "does it?"




  
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Apr 28, 2004 18:58 |  #26

dn7elson wrote:
gordeaux wrote:
I read the Canon specs that AutoFocus would NOT work even with the 1.4x + 100-400. (following from http://www.usa.canon.c​om/html/eflenses/ (external link))

What I find interesting from this same chart is that the 400 f5.6L is shown as AF working with the 1.4x without qualification. Big question is "does it?"

I have just that combo for testing. I'll give it a try tomorrow and let you know.


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Apr 28, 2004 19:15 |  #27

IanD wrote:
I have just that combo for testing. I'll give it a try tomorrow and let you know.

That would be great as I am looking at either the 100-400 f4.5-5.6L or the 400 f5.6L when the wallet allows. I can see advantages to both, but if I could "s t r e t c h" the reach a bit more with the 1.4x and still have AF, life would be good.

I find it odd that Canon takes such pains with other lenses to show limited AF or no AF whereas the 400 f5.6 shows AF on the 1.4x chart.




  
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