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Plastic fantastic or is there more ?

 
J.A.F. ­ Doorhof
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Apr 22, 2007 04:08 |  #1

On alot of fora you will find people who nag about plastic faces.
Although I completly agree that on some photos the work on the faces are really really BAD and the models look more like barbie than a real world model.
There also has to be some information on the how and why.
When I work on my photos I always shop with prints on A2 format in mind (or larger), in other words the pictures are to be published large.
When you take care of your light placement the light will hit the skin in a diffuse matter and lighten up the pores and problem areas, I know that with 100% correct exposure and 100% correct lightuse you can get a shopped skin effect straight out of the camera.
In photoshop my work is mostly not more than 4-10 minutes per photo on the skin, which mainly consist on working on blemishes and problem areas under the eyes.
Because you make the pictures much smaller for internet ALOT of information is lost and the picture is made softer than it actually is.
The last few years I have seen myself that by climbing MP's on my camera the internet version loose more and more detail.
So for the fun and to make people think about this internetsoftening here some examples, to show that a picture which LOOK overshopped in practice (1:1) has more than enough detail and is no Barbie.
The internet version

IMAGE: http://www.doorhof.nl/models/albums/userpics/10001/Cherelle_9_Maart_2007-49.jpg
1:1 crop
IMAGE NOT FOUND
HTTP response: 404 | MIME changed to 'text/html' | Byte size: ZERO

another one
IMAGE: http://www.doorhof.nl/models/albums/userpics/10001/Nadine_pro_imaging_2007_12_Maart_00038.jpg
1:1 crop
IMAGE NOT FOUND
HTTP response: 404 | MIME changed to 'text/html' | Byte size: ZERO

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Apr 22, 2007 06:27 |  #2

Frank, your work's always inspirational....I can see exactly what your saying...the close crops show that the detail is there.

As a pro photographer I wonder if you would share your technique for the skin, so that we can take on board what you are saying and learn from your ideas?
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Apr 22, 2007 09:01 |  #3

Great examples, good point and beautiful images.
Adding 100% crops seems like a good preemptive measure to avoid the annoying comments . ;)


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Apr 22, 2007 09:37 |  #4

Mostly what I use to smoothen more than the light is to use a highpass filter very slightly and surface blur, but that is really very minor.
Most is done with the clone/healing brush.


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Apr 22, 2007 09:40 |  #5

Since I've never been a big fan of the pastic barbie doll look I agree with you 100%, JMO but I think far too many photographer's seem to find it necessary to over process their work.

Mike


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