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Apr 23, 2007 09:40 |  #16

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Apr 23, 2007 09:45 |  #17

Also, you could have a really top notch graphics card driving a mediocre monitor. This will result in nothing better than onscreen mediocre images.

Be example I've got a pretty decent card that came bundled with the system - has 128MB of RAM on it which is good but not a lot - and when I upgraded to a better monitor I could tell the improved image difference.

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Wouldn't you need the graphics card associated with the monitor so as to compare?


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Apr 23, 2007 09:58 |  #18

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Apr 23, 2007 10:17 as a reply to  @ René Damkot's post |  #19

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Apr 23, 2007 22:31 |  #20

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Apr 23, 2007 23:08 |  #21

DocFrankenstein wrote in post #3083340 (external link)
In the end I will be able to actually say: "dells have a small/large gamut and such/such cheap model really seems to stand out and this one is overpriced"

Um, not exactly... you'll be able to tell what calibration systems or techniques produce what results and to what extent. However, that will be useless without each individual contributing their calibration process, and at best, others will be able to decide their own personal opinion based on these very uncontrolled conditions.

You're trying to measure different profiles, made by different application or users and in different environments. What you are trying to accomplish can only be done in controlled conditions with the same measurement device and the individual monitors themselves from the same computer and graphics processors. What you are doing is actually a waste of time and will not produce any discernable test results.

What you'll actually be able to say is "Here is Joe's calibration system's gamut... Here is Sue's calibration system's gamut in comparison... etc". You will be able to say "Joe's calibration system gamut reaches further into the greens than Sue's calibration system's gamut", but you will not be able to tell which "monitor actually produces better results" without a controlled environment with a single dedicated testing reference and device/tool.

But as for your first question...

Would you like to know how your profile compares to others?

Yes, you will be able to do that.




  
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Apr 24, 2007 00:06 |  #22

amonline wrote in post #3093750 (external link)
Um, not exactly... you'll be able to tell what calibration systems or techniques produce what results and to what extent. However, that will be useless without each individual contributing their calibration process, and at best, others will be able to decide their own personal opinion based on these very uncontrolled conditions.

Yes, people will be able to form an opinion in the end. I am hoping for that much.

You're trying to measure different profiles, made by different application or users and in different environments. What you are trying to accomplish can only be done in controlled conditions with the same measurement device and the individual monitors themselves from the same computer and graphics processors. What you are doing is actually a waste of time and will not produce any discernable test results.

I agree with the waste of time. :lol:

1) Graphic cards don't matter, as I explained in my earlier post.
2) If the colorimeters are worth their money, then it doesn't matter which one you use. All they do is take some photons and translate it into LAB color space. The more expensive, the better the results, but overall it should be pretty close.
3) What does a processor have to do with it? Nothing.
4) Conditions are controlled. The puck is on the monitor's surface and the lights are "normal working environment"

What you'll actually be able to say is "Here is Joe's calibration system's gamut... Here is Sue's calibration system's gamut in comparison... etc". You will be able to say "Joe's calibration system gamut reaches further into the greens than Sue's calibration system's gamut", but you will not be able to tell which "monitor actually produces better results" without a controlled environment with a single dedicated testing reference and device/tool.

There will be SOME variation from the colorimeter you use and from the graphics card. But the main difference in the size of the gamut is going to be due to difference in monitors.

If you put a 6K eizo or a NEC which includes the whole AdobeRGB gamut and compare it to a 200 dollar ACER, which one do you think will have larger gamut?

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Apr 24, 2007 06:55 as a reply to  @ DocFrankenstein's post |  #23

I'm looking forward to the results. ;)




  
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Apr 24, 2007 07:41 |  #24

Watch my 30 year old monitor rate up high. I would die if it did. It actually seems to have an awesome color rendition. I have had a lot of monitors, and this junky old CRT I have seems pretty good for image editing.


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Apr 24, 2007 15:35 |  #25

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Apr 24, 2007 18:22 |  #26

when will there be some results posted?


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Apr 24, 2007 19:28 |  #27

grinchy wrote in post #3098229 (external link)
when will there be some results posted?

After may 6 :)

I am in the middle of exams right now and then I'm off to photograph new york for a couple of days. I don't want to mess up (further) my exam session.


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Apr 26, 2007 19:51 |  #28

Thanks for doing this. I sent mine for a Viewsonic VX2025wm calibrated with a Spyder 2.


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