Just back home...Apple Computers VS PC

picturecrazy wrote in post #3109070
Seriously... either platform is good.

Best post in this entire thread probabely.
(And I guess that includes the posts to come)

hannaxt wrote in post #3109117
I viewed you gallery and the slide show with the deep forest music. That can be accopmplished out of the box with all standard software on ANY Mac.

Wow, you are REALLY on the pro-MAC warpath, aren't you?

If those slideshows can be made with ANY mac's standard software, why is that program being sold for Macs? And selling really well at that? So therefore, I somehow doubt your claim, though I've never used the Mac software.

Not to mention, I also doubt the slideshows can be made with ALL Mac's. At least, not the Mac's I cut my teeth on. Classic? LC? Plus?

picturecrazy wrote in post #3109161
Wow, you are REALLY on the pro-MAC warpath, aren't you?

If those slideshows can be made with ANY mac's standard software, why is that program being sold for Macs? And selling really well at that? So therefore, I somehow doubt your claim, though I've never used the Mac software.

Not to mention, I also doubt the slideshows can be made with ALL Mac's. At least, not the Mac's I cut my teeth on. Classic? LC? Plus?

It's more like wondering why the derogatory remarks…

Who uses Classic? that's been dead since 10.1

Standard Mac software being what comes bundled on all Macs since OSX. = iLife suite
But if you haven't used it then I can understand why you would not know.

Personally the anyone should get what they are comfortable with. But if asked, I will point out the mac/OSX benefits.

Your last comment on the Macs you cut your teeth with, well naturally those won't run the new software, but in OS9 (classic) you could do it too.

milleker wrote in post #3107842
Actually, I'd rather have manual windows because its such a PITA to replace the window motor on power windows.

I don't think any computer PC or Mac have a definite advantage over one or the other. Get what you like, what you can afford. For me I don't like Apple and never did. Not going to start a flame war about it, just my opinion. I'd rather put that extra money towards a completely decked out custom PC and some extra hardware goodies.

Oh BTW Amiga rules (ruled) all.

YES, AMIGA RULES(D) ALL!

Oh, and I use a PC...

I am a long time IT manager by day Monday to Friday (Windows servers, desktops and networks) and a wedding photographer on a weekend and evenings and a newly converted Mac Book Pro user for my photography stuff...... I am loving the change from PC to Mac and am finding lots of positive aspects to Mac ownership, everything is very intuitive and just works without any hassle.

Automator is a great mac workflow tool and is already speeding things up for me and making my life easier and its something that I am sure I will be using and developing a lot in the next few months.

Rakefet wrote in post #3105069
How many of you use apples? Do you use the slide show program on it to produce your slide shows?

My husband about has me convined...what did you do with all your software? CS3? etc.

Apple and non Apple users Speak up....

The nice thing about the Mac is that it can do both Mac and Windows (XP Pro SP2 and Vista). (It'll also do Linux, but that's probably not something you'd want to do.)

Get a machine that has at least a Core 2 Duo processor and 2 gigs of RAM - either Mac or Win - and you should be in good shape hardware-wise. I cannot comment on Window's software because I don't use many.

Now for the Mac-specific questions: You should be able to get Adobe to issue you a CD with the Mac version of CS2 for a minimal cost (tens of dollars). If you're going to buy CS3, then you'll be fine on the Mac.

Questions for you: Do you entertain customers at your place of business for your post-wedding image review, or is it all web-based? If so, do you have them sit next to you at the computer, or do you do the image viewing elsewhere (e.g., on a TV or with a projector)? What I really like about the Mac is that I can rapidly build a slideshow from just about any application using its iMovie HD app that comes with it. iMovie has direct access to my Aperture and iPhoto libraries (even the projects, so you can select only a specific client). It's just drag and drop, choose your transitions, add some music and export to the media of choice.

If your clients have an HDTV you can build them high-quality slideshows that they can play on their TVs using either DVDs or the H.264 high-def MPEG4 export for those who have iTunes or iPods connected to their HDTV. It's all pretty seamless.

deltroid wrote in post #3109309
YES, AMIGA RULES(D) ALL!

Oh, and I use a PC...

Lemmings anyone?

René Damkot wrote in post #3109149
Best post in this entire thread probabely.
(And I guess that includes the posts to come)

Zepher wrote in post #3110560
Lemmings anyone?

Okay, I was wrong

I just realized that I had a $7500 computer system (Amiga 3000 with a Video Toaster 4000 card, 20megs or Ram, and 500megs of hard drives) back in 1993 and I didn't even own a car.

The dollars are what got me last time around. I've owned a PC for years but seriously considered a switch to Apple. I priced the system and couldn't afford the performance level I wanted, especially with the re-purchase of software.

But I'm a lot less obsessive about the box I run than about the camera equipment I use. Either computer will get the job done with my photos.

Tony-S wrote in post #3109986
The nice thing about the Mac is that it can do both Mac and Windows (XP Pro SP2 and Vista). (It'll also do Linux, but that's probably not something you'd want to do.)

Get a machine that has at least a Core 2 Duo processor and 2 gigs of RAM - either Mac or Win - and you should be in good shape hardware-wise. I cannot comment on Window's software because I don't use many.

Now for the Mac-specific questions: You should be able to get Adobe to issue you a CD with the Mac version of CS2 for a minimal cost (tens of dollars). If you're going to buy CS3, then you'll be fine on the Mac.

Questions for you: Do you entertain customers at your place of business for your post-wedding image review, or is it all web-based? If so, do you have them sit next to you at the computer, or do you do the image viewing elsewhere (e.g., on a TV or with a projector)? What I really like about the Mac is that I can rapidly build a slideshow from just about any application using its iMovie HD app that comes with it. iMovie has direct access to my Aperture and iPhoto libraries (even the projects, so you can select only a specific client). It's just drag and drop, choose your transitions, add some music and export to the media of choice.

If your clients have an HDTV you can build them high-quality slideshows that they can play on their TVs using either DVDs or the H.264 high-def MPEG4 export for those who have iTunes or iPods connected to their HDTV. It's all pretty seamless.

No, not as yet...but I will make them slideshows..when purchased of their day or of their pics to show at the reception, I also do slide shows for the baseball league I shoot. I was impressed with the imovie (now that I have the correct name of it) but I do have pro show gold on my PC and it is a great program also. My PC is dying, I will have to get a new one within a year I am sure. I just replaced the HD and it did not help alot...You just cannot play around with dying pc's in this business. I will however need a lap top to show the slideshows at the reception as a little PR and a little nice thing for all of them to see...the apple is great with it's 25 dollar lock/alarm thing that plugs right into the notebook.

Zepher wrote in post #3105562
Macs are for the computer illiterate.
I use Pro Show Gold for quick slideshows and Adobe Premiere and After Effects for more elaborate (Fancy) slideshows.

Hmmm.... Really? That is an interesting opinion... I have been in the IT industry for over 20 years. I have taught classes on building your own PC plus various certifications. I have ran service departments for large independent computer stores. I have built more computers than I can count. I have been one of the most in demand contractors in the Southeastern US working for more Fortune 500 companies than anyone else I know. I am a System Administrator/Network Analyst/Security Analyst by day and a Semi-Pro photographer on the side. I pay an ungodly amount of money each year to be in the Microsoft Developers Network. I have installed and used every version of Windows since Windows 286. Trust me when I say that I am more computer literate than 95% of the people out there.

Now ask me what my main computer I uses every day is. Try a MacBook Pro. Why? How about because the OS is UNIX based and very, very stable. Much more stable than anything Microsoft has released in years. Every bit as stable as Linux. There are no driver issues, no installs that throw files everywhere on your computer, no registry that gets corrupted. It just works.

Banbert wrote in post #3109967
I am a long time IT manager by day Monday to Friday (Windows servers, desktops and networks) and a wedding photographer on a weekend and evenings and a newly converted Mac Book Pro user for my photography stuff...... I am loving the change from PC to Mac and am finding lots of positive aspects to Mac ownership, everything is very intuitive and just works without any hassle.

Automator is a great mac workflow tool and is already speeding things up for me and making my life easier and its something that I am sure I will be using and developing a lot in the next few months.

I'm with you here. I love the "works without a hassle" aspect too.

To answer the original question. Yes you can use iPhoto to create slide shows. I mostly use Lightroom or Photoshop doe those kind of things. Jalbum is a nice freebie that works well on either the Mac or the PC.

Sorry for the rant. I too usually try to avoid these kind of discussions but that "computer illiterate" comment caught me before my morning pot of coffee. I am all better now...

Michael

Zepher wrote in post #3105562
Macs are for the computer illiterate.

mspringfield wrote in post #3112496
Hmmm.... Really? That is an interesting opinion... I have been in the IT industry for over 20 years... Trust me when I say that I am more computer literate than 95% of the people out there.

Now ask me what my main computer I uses every day is. Try a MacBook Pro. Why? How about because the OS is UNIX based and very, very stable. Much more stable than anything Microsoft has released in years.

Usually, those who slam Macs have not used them to any extent. I have a minor in compsci (cut my teeth on VMS, which I hated, and UNIX) and was completely ecstatic when Apple announce that OS X would be based on BSD. I recall installing their first demo version (something like $30?) and pulling up the terminal. Boy did that bring back memories of late nights and Mountain Dew!

Both PC's and Mac's are lame. If you truely have skill like me you do your photo editing with a typewriter and white out.

Seriously though, obviously based on all the arguments they both will work just fine. I use a Mac and love it, but I am just one guy and one opinion.

canoflan wrote in post #3107740
So I guess you are the type that would rather have a vehicle that requires the handle to roll up the windows vs power windows because power windows are for the lazy and ignorant.

But I'm the type of person that would rather be able to but the biggest baddest engine in it, hop it up, and make it perform better than an econo box with power windows.

I wouldn't go as far to say "they just work". It's marketing talk there. There's always going to be problems one way or another. Just spend some time on the mac forums and you'll see how many problems there are and how frustrated people get at a machine that's "just works".

No bashing there, just the truth.

I didn't have any problem with my MBP when I had it, but I probably will when I get a new one. But I'm planning on using it for more than browsing the internet and checking e-mail.