Just back home...Apple Computers VS PC

I am not slamming the Mac, in fact, I like the Mac just as much as the next guy.
My statement was pretty vague, and I knew I would get plenty of rebuttal statements towards it.
Since Apple is the sole maker of the main hardware, all of the aftermarket software and hardware is pretty much guaranteed to work on it with relatively little or no problems at all. (This was the same with the Amiga)
So, the computer illiterate people will have an easier time using and adding peripherals to the Mac.

Give a noob a PC with a Linux disc and some extra hardware and see how for they get before they get so frustrated that they toss the machine.

A great slideshow program for the Mac is Fotomagico

wlescall wrote in post #3113954
A great slideshow program for the Mac is Fotomagico

Very good application.

Interesting thread. Since I'm a long-time PC owner & builder, I am certainly biased towards multi-sourced (therefor cheaper) appliances. It's interesting, however, the venom that gets spat towards Macs. In my case, I just want the &$^!!! thing to work. I'm still investigating the two platforms, but unless Vista cleans up its act I'm having trouble leaning that way...

Photoshop is exactly the same on the PC and on the Mac. It doesn't matter if you take a PC or a Mac, one isn't better than the other for photo work. If you get a new Mac with an Intel processor, you can even run Windows on it and run any program that you can run on a PC!

The reason why I'm not using a Mac is because I'm a programmer and the newest version of Java isn't available for the Mac (Apple is slow to update their version of Java). Also, Macs are a bit more expensive than PCs - you pay a premium for the Mac coolness factor...

Jesper wrote in post #3118807
The reason why I'm not using a Mac is because I'm a programmer and the newest version of Java isn't available for the Mac (Apple is slow to update their version of Java).

This usually isn't a factor for me. I have found, however, that some web sites that are designed for IE don't work well with Safari (Apple's web browser). For these I have to launch Firefox - quite annoying. Fortunately, there aren't too many such sites.

Well, if you compare similarly-equipped Macs and PCs, the price is really about the same (at least in the U.S.).

Tony-S wrote in post #3119017
Well, if you compare similarly-equipped Macs and PCs, the price is really about the same (at least in the U.S.).

Don't start this....no their not.

I have a mini configured exactly the same as a dell, except the Dell has a 1.8 Core 2 Duo and the mini is only offered with a 1.82 Core Duo and the Dell has a faster burner because it's the slowest option where the mini's only option is included..

the mini is $1074 and the Dell is $599

Mini:
Specifications

• 1.83GHz Intel Core Duo
  
• 1GB 667 DDR2 SDRAM - 2x512
  
• 160GB Serial ATA drive
  
• SuperDrive 8x (DVD+R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
  
• Mac OS X - U.S. English
  
• Intel GMA 950 graphics
  
• Accessory kit

The laptops can be similar if you compare a refurbed mac vs. new pc, or a hopped up pc vs a new macbook.

None of your links seem to be working.

Village_Idiot wrote in post #3120063
Dell:

Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor E4300 (1.8GHz, 800 FSB)

Genuine Windows Vista™ Home Premium

No Monitor

1GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz- 2DIMMs

160GB Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200RPM) w/DataBurst Cache™

16x DVD+/-RW Drive

Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator X3000

Integrated 7.1 Channel Audio








My Accessories
No speakers (Speakers are required to hear audio from your system)

Dell USB Keyboard and Dell 2-button Scroll Mouse







No Floppy Drive Included

56K PCI Data Fax Modem



My Software Microsoft Works 8. DOES NOT INCLUDE MS WORD

No security subscription (McAfee 30-day trial)

Trial pack- Basic and trial products from Corel and Yahoo









My Service 1Yr Ltd Warranty and At-Home Service




6 Months of America Online Membership Included





Also Includes
Mouse included in Wireless, Laser or Bluetooth Package
Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 7.0
Integrated 10/100 Ethernet
Award Winning Service and Support
Windows Vista™ Premium

Tony-S wrote in post #3120133
None of your links seem to be working.

It was just cut and paste from Dell's website. Go configure a Dimension with a c2d and a mini with similar specs...it's what I posted above.

Better? It even comes with a keyboard and mouse, which I believe the mini does not.

http://ecomm.dell.com …cs=19&c=us&&det​ails=false

Dell Dimension E520
Date & Time: April 28,2007 4:50 PM CST
SYSTEM COMPONENTS
Dell Dimension E520 Qty 1
Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor E4300 (1.8GHz, 800 FSB),
Genuine Windows Vista™ Home PremiumUnit Price $749.00
Dell Home Customers: Save $150 instant off on this Dell Dimension E520! Limited Time Offer! - $150.00
Dimension E520Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor E4300 (1.8GHz, 800 FSB)
Operating SystemGenuine Windows Vista™ Home Premium
Memory1GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz- 2 DIMMs
Keyboard Dell USB Keyboard and Dell 2-button Scroll Mouse
Monitor No Monitor
Video Cards Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator X3000
Hard Drives 160GB Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200RPM) w/DataBurst Cache™
Floppy Drive and Media Reader No Floppy Drive Included
Mouse Mouse included in Wireless, Laser or Bluetooth Package
Network Interface Integrated 10/100 Ethernet
Modem 56K PCI Data Fax Modem
Adobe Software Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 7.0
CD or DVD Drive 16x DVD+/-RW Drive
Sound Cards Integrated 7.1 Channel Audio
Speakers No speakers (Speakers are required to hear audio from your system)
Bundle Microsoft Works 8. DOES NOT INCLUDE MS WORD
Security Software No security subscription (McAfee 30-day trial)
Warranty and Service 1Yr Ltd Warranty and At-Home Service
Internet Access Service 6 Months of America Online Membership Included
Miscellaneous Award Winning Service and Support
Dell Digital Entertainment Trial pack- Basic and trial products from Corel and Yahoo
Labels Windows Vista™ Premium

Tony-S wrote in post #3119017
This usually isn't a factor for me. I have found, however, that some web sites that are designed for IE don't work well with Safari (Apple's web browser). For these I have to launch Firefox - quite annoying. Fortunately, there aren't too many such sites.

This is because MS is useless at programming a web browser for some reason. Every version from 5 through the latest iteration of 7 fails just about every compatibility test out there. Designers who program for IE explicitly need to be taken out back and shot alongside Internet Explorer's programming leads.

Pretty sad that Firefox, Safari, Opera etc can get it right, and the behemouth that is MS get's it wrong, every single solitary time. As a programmer and web application developer, it was absolutely infuriating.

Is this the Fantastic Four thread? Bcs I am sure I heard somebody say 'flame on'...

Village_Idiot wrote in post #3120195
It was just cut and paste from Dell's website. Go configure a Dimension with a c2d and a mini with similar specs...it's what I posted above.

If you assert this is an equivalent machine, isn't it incumbant upon you to provide the evidence?

Tony-S wrote in post #3120240
If you assert this is an equivalent machine, isn't it incumbant upon you to provide the evidence?

look up