Color Mismatch Between Lightroom And Photoshop

Howdy folks,

First off I'm no expert on color management just let me get that out of the way right off the bat.

I've tried exporting a few pictures from LR now to Photoshop (CS2) and all the pictures have a much different color they are significantly 'cooler' looking than they are in LR. I've done about 6 or 7 pictures now and they all came out this way.

I went into photoshop which I had set to AdobeRGB (1998) and made sure that it was set to preserve the embeded profiles as well as prompt when opening a picture with a different profile.

Then I went into LR and did another export (LR is in ProPhoto) it prompted about the different profile and I selected to use the original and it still looked cool. Then I went into CS2 and set the color space to ProPhoto there, repeated it, this time it didn't prompt for a different color space but the colors were still very cool compared to LR.

Anyone have any idea where I'm messing this up? If I go to display settings - advanced - color management I only have one profile loaded for my monitor (the supplied one, not a custom).

Thanks for anyone who can point me in the right direction with this, having to process the color twice for each photo will make using LR essentially worthless for me until I can figure out what's going on here.

Thanks,
Kurt

When you export from LR, what color space, bit depth, and file format are you using? Once imported into PS, are these same settings seen? Are you converting color spaces or assigning them? 16 bit ProPhoto RGB works well in both LR and PS, but not in non-color aware programs (i.e. web browsers or email). Have you tried exporting from LR using AdobeRGB or sRGB? Does everything look fine when you edit in PS (from LR)?

From what I am reading in your post, it sounds as if you're doing things correctly, but there has to be an error somewhere in the process. I don't see similar issues between PS and LR on my machine and I suspect that somewhere in the process you are coming up with a color space mismatch between the two, which will give color errors. Since it's on the same machine, your monitor profile shouldn't make any difference since that is the same for both programs.

An image in ProPhotoRGB would look very unsaturated when displayed as AdobeRGB, not 'cooler'.
I don't use LR, but I'd suppose it uses the 'system' display profile by default, so things don't get screwed up there.

Some screenshots might help identify the problem.

I am exporting in ProPhoto 16bit as a psd file from LR and this is what CS2 shows.

I have tried setting CS2 to ProPhoto as the color space as well and I'm still getting the same color temperature problem.

I'll try and rustle up some screenshots here, but I'm not 100% sure if screenshots will show the problem if it's some error with a color profile or something but I guess we'll find out. I'll also try exporting from LR in AdobeRGB and see how that goes.

Thanks guys, screenshots hopefully in a half hour here,
Kurt

Twitch1977 wrote in post #3107623
I have tried setting CS2 to ProPhoto as the color space as well and I'm still getting the same color temperature problem.

Off course: If color management is set up correctly, the working space in PS won't matter one bit: The profile embedded in the image will be used instead of the working space, or the image will be converted to the working space (depending on setting, or choice in the 'profile mismatch' dialog)

It's only going to give issues when a non color managed program is thrown in the mix.

Curious to the screenshots, as I have no idea what could be happening...

PS isn't Proofing colors for some reason, is it?

Sounds very odd that you should be seeing differences between the two programs given that you're using the same color profiles and the same computer and monitor. Short of a setup issue, which seems as if you're doing that part correctly, I'm at a loss as to what could cause the problem. The only thing that I'm not clear with in your explanation is when you said you "set CS2 to ProPhoto". By that, did you mean that you set it as your working space prior to opening the file or that you "assigned" ProPhotoRGB as the color space upon opening the file? Since you said you have it set to preserve the color space, it "should" not be an issue. I'm interested in the outcome of this issue (willing to help where I can).

In2Photos wrote in post #3107680
PS isn't Proofing colors for some reason, is it?

Good thought!

Here's one screenie:

Exporting via LR ProPhoto Color Space, 16-bit, PSD format:

HTTP response: 404 | MIME changed to 'image/gif' | Byte size: ZERO | PHOTOBUCKET ERROR IMAGE

HTTP response: 404 | MIME changed to 'image/gif' | Byte size: ZERO | PHOTOBUCKET ERROR IMAGE

That's strange: AFAIK Mspaint is *not* color managed...

Could this be a bogus monitor profile CS2 is loading? I can't recall if Photoshop uses it's own monitor profile or the one set up in the system's display settings.

Kurt

You can try and go to my post here: There are a few links to test your monitors profile.

PS will automatically use the monitor profile the OS uses.

In2Photos wrote in post #3107680
PS isn't Proofing colors for some reason, is it?

I ask again.

Looking at the screenshot: No (it would show in the top of the image window as "RGB/16/Monitor" or whatever)

I have never used color proofing in my life so I can't imagine it, but I'll double check when I get home. Thanks for the suggestion! I had adobe gamma running on this computer with an old monitor, when I changed to this new one I disabled it, could that have created some sort of profile photoshop is using?

Kurt