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Apr 29, 2004 22:11 |  #1

How do you set up your cams? With a predefined "set" with all values to "0" (or possible other values), or do you use AdobeRGB?




  
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Apr 29, 2004 22:11 |  #2

Or maybe you shoot raw all the time, that's an option :)




  
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Apr 29, 2004 22:16 |  #3

Yes, I use AdobeRGB. And I shoot RAW sometimes and large Jpeg sometimes. Depends on the situation.




  
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Apr 29, 2004 22:19 |  #4

300D: I've been using Parameter 2 & RAW most of the time, but am open to suggestions.


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Apr 30, 2004 03:22 |  #5

RAW for all my "nature" shots. Bike racing gets large Jpeg with everything turned off. Family BBQ's and the like, large Jpeg. Everything gets run through PSCS.


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Apr 30, 2004 10:56 |  #6

Adobe RGB always, it's the most common all around format. RAW 80% of the time the rest is Jpeg Large Fine and thats for when I'm doing fast action and don't have the time to wait on the buffer to clear.


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Apr 30, 2004 11:15 |  #7

I shoot raw and convert to ProPhoto RGB using C1.

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Apr 30, 2004 14:12 |  #8

I shoot in Adobe RGB and send Adobe RBB prints to my printer which undoubtedly has a smaller gamut than Adobe RGB but probably larger than sRGB (my eye cannot really tell).

I convert Adobe RGB images to sRGB color space for web display.

I archive all images in Adobe RGB color space with the hopes that someday printers and monitors will better display its larger gamut. :)


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Apr 30, 2004 19:30 |  #9

ive never really played with this setting


is it something i SHOULD be using?

ive got it on the default standard setting currently......

what does this setting do compared to the standard default setting?




  
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Apr 30, 2004 20:56 |  #10

I shoot RAW all th time so it doesn't matter what color space I set the camera for. Used to convert to sRGB since I was only putting the pictures up on the web but I recently started using Adobe RGB as my work space since I'm going to be printing my pictures in the form of a calendar.


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May 01, 2004 06:17 |  #11

There is no compelling reason to use AdobeRGB unless you are doing specialized print work or required by the printer. Nearly ALL printers end up converting your digital file to sRGB, so to me there is no benefit to AdobeRGB's larger color space. Some will argue that you have more information to start with; again, not beneficial in most cases. Remember that the more you convert a file from one color space to a different one the more you actually loose. If a particular color is not within the gamut of sRGB it will be tossed or "retrofitted" anyway during conversion. Test it to see for yourself. Shoot the same exact scene with one in sRGB and the other in AdobeRGB.

Simply call a list of printmasters and ask them. Don't go on the words of people who don't do the printing themselves.

Check out this article
http://www.shootsmarte​r.com/infocenter/wc025​.html (external link)




  
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May 01, 2004 06:37 |  #12

Cordell wrote:
There is no compelling reason to use AdobeRGB unless you are doing specialized print work or required by the printer. Nearly ALL printers end up converting your digital file to sRGB, so to me there is no benefit to AdobeRGB's larger color space. Some will argue that you have more information to start with; again, not beneficial in most cases. Remember that the more you convert a file from one color space to a different one the more you actually loose. If a particular color is not within the gamut of sRGB it will be tossed or "retrofitted" anyway during conversion. Test it to see for yourself. Shoot the same exact scene with one in sRGB and the other in AdobeRGB.

Simply call a list of printmasters and ask them. Don't go on the words of people who don't do the printing themselves.

Check out this article
http://www.shootsmarte​r.com/infocenter/wc025​.html (external link)

I used to think along your line of thinking, too, until it dawned on me that if you're using the sRGB work space and you need AdobeRGB, then you're sol without having to go back and redo everything if you want the colors in the "extended" areas of the AdobeRGB gamut. However, if you start out with AdobeRGB in the first place, it's a simple matter of converting to sRGB.

And also, I haven't seen any compelling reason NOT to go with AdobeRGB, either.


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May 01, 2004 06:51 |  #13

PacAce wrote:
Cordell wrote:
There is no compelling reason to use AdobeRGB unless you are doing specialized print work or required by the printer. Nearly ALL printers end up converting your digital file to sRGB, so to me there is no benefit to AdobeRGB's larger color space. Some will argue that you have more information to start with; again, not beneficial in most cases. Remember that the more you convert a file from one color space to a different one the more you actually loose. If a particular color is not within the gamut of sRGB it will be tossed or "retrofitted" anyway during conversion. Test it to see for yourself. Shoot the same exact scene with one in sRGB and the other in AdobeRGB.

Simply call a list of printmasters and ask them. Don't go on the words of people who don't do the printing themselves.

Check out this article
http://www.shootsmarte​r.com/infocenter/wc025​.html (external link)

I used to think along your line of thinking, too, until it dawned on me that if you're using the sRGB work space and you need AdobeRGB, then you're sol without having to go back and redo everything if you want the colors in the "extended" areas of the AdobeRGB gamut. However, if you start out with AdobeRGB in the first place, it's a simple matter of converting to sRGB.

And also, I haven't seen any compelling reason NOT to go with AdobeRGB, either.

I agree. I don't always know for sure what all uses I'll have for a particular shot. If I shoot in AdobeRGB, at least I'll still have that original copy in that color space. I have PS CS set up for Adobe RGB also.




  
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May 01, 2004 07:22 |  #14

Cordell wrote:
There is no compelling reason to use AdobeRGB unless you are doing specialized print work or required by the printer. Nearly ALL printers end up converting your digital file to sRGB, so to me there is no benefit to AdobeRGB's larger color space. Some will argue that you have more information to start with; again, not beneficial in most cases. Remember that the more you convert a file from one color space to a different one the more you actually loose. If a particular color is not within the gamut of sRGB it will be tossed or "retrofitted" anyway during conversion. Test it to see for yourself. Shoot the same exact scene with one in sRGB and the other in AdobeRGB.

Simply call a list of printmasters and ask them. Don't go on the words of people who don't do the printing themselves.

Check out this article
http://www.shootsmarte​r.com/infocenter/wc025​.html (external link)

Sorry, the advice to shoot sRGB is horsefeathers. It's based on the lowest common denominator, digital printing for dummies principle. If you do your own printing with a desktop inkjet such as an Epson 2100/2200 or the R800 and many other makes and models, you are just throwing away colour, if you use sRGB. I have a bunch of gamut plots (external link) that that show such printers are capable of printing colours that are outside the gamut of sRGB. There are also some images that show these "larger-than-sRGB" colours do happen occur in "average scenes".

Commercial printshops that request sRGB are taking the same approach - don't care about the best quality, just want to avoid hassle. On top of that, it's not as if shooting sRGB makes life any easier in post-processing.

If you are never, ever going to use images for something other than web display, perhaps, sRGB is OK, but for anything else you are giving up colour range for no obvious benefit.

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May 02, 2004 09:51 |  #15

Check this out for best advice how to set up camera:

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