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May 07, 2004 00:12 |  #61

Hi DG, here's a link to article about flash that maybe interesting to you (like me, makes me want to buy one...) Try to click on the link at the bottom of the page, to see other flash-related article.

http://eosseries.ifran​ce.com …work/flashwork_​tech3.html (external link)

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May 07, 2004 01:01 |  #62

thanks so much

I just wanted to say thanks to everyone who has replied to this thread so far. You guys are awesome.

I am mostly going to be shooting people, specifically athletes, specifically bodybuilders. I will be shooting them in the gym as well as at shows. Sometimes outdoor and other times obviously indoors. I am currently experimenting with different lenses amongst other things. The shows are usually in an auditorium like arena with seating as close as maybe twenty feet if you get lucky. Otherwise I am running up and down the aisles as people shout at me to get out of their way. But I don't care I am there to get my pictures so I hold my ground kindly. :D

My goal is to find a combination that will allow me to capture details of the person's physique that can easily be lost in the picture, such as details of the muscles specifically. I have been looking at a lot of other people's pictures as well to see what they have been incorporating in their photos.

I am obviously still learning but very excited at this all..keep the info coming boys..i love it all....

And I am getting ready to spend spend spend as needed shortly..I'll keep everyone posted ..thanks again




  
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May 07, 2004 01:53 |  #63

A must read article for Canon flash:

http://photonotes.org/​articles/eos-flash/ (external link)




  
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May 07, 2004 10:24 |  #64

Luckily the lighting on the BB competitions isn't that bad, but not very bright...


You need a good zoom with good apeture settings 2.2 or 1.8 70-200 and maybe 100-400 or something like that...


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May 07, 2004 10:40 |  #65

DieselGirl wrote:
I just wanted to say thanks to everyone who has replied to this thread so far. You guys are awesome.

I am mostly going to be shooting people, specifically athletes, specifically bodybuilders. I will be shooting them in the gym as well as at shows. Sometimes outdoor and other times obviously indoors. I am currently experimenting with different lenses amongst other things. The shows are usually in an auditorium like arena with seating as close as maybe twenty feet if you get lucky. Otherwise I am running up and down the aisles as people shout at me to get out of their way. But I don't care I am there to get my pictures so I hold my ground kindly. :D

I think that the 85 mm f/1.8 is going to be very helpful for getting good shots without the flash if the show has halfway decent lighting. In the gym, that may be a different story though many are very well lit (and some very dimly lit which gives its own "aura" of sinister activity).

My goal is to find a combination that will allow me to capture details of the person's physique that can easily be lost in the picture, such as details of the muscles specifically. I have been looking at a lot of other people's pictures as well to see what they have been incorporating in their photos.

I am obviously still learning but very excited at this all..keep the info coming boys..i love it all....

And I am getting ready to spend spend spend as needed shortly..I'll keep everyone posted ..thanks again

I suspect that you are eventually going to be working towards a good, fast telephoto zoom, but I suggest mastering what you have now first. The 70-200 f/2.8 IS comes to mind (at a high price, though) as it has a large-enough aperture for indoor flashless work (like at a show), has the absolute crispness to bring out detail (though the 85/1.8 has this as well), has image stabilization to deal with camera shake when you don't use a flash, and has a very useful zoom range for such events. With the 70-200, you don't have to be stage-side but can find a strategic spot 30-40 feet away and still get very good shots while avoiding having to knock others over. Plus, you can get good close-up shots of the muscles in action in the gym without needing to get right in the middle of things.

Myself, I have a very good Sigma 70-200 f/2.8 lens that costed significantly less than the Canon equivalent - and I like it a lot. It is very useful for the type of shooting you might do at a BB show IMHO.


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May 07, 2004 12:22 |  #66

Thanks Tom!

Yes, I have already shot a show with the 85mm and the pictures are great. At F.18, the fastest shutter speed I could get was 1/60 s so and I didn't use a tripod. This time around, I will opt for a monopod as it will allow me to get around a bit better.

How much does that Sigma lense run? I have heard mix thoughts on Sigma vs. Canon.

Apparently you have had good luck with yours, please do share more.




  
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May 07, 2004 12:33 |  #67

DieselGirl wrote:
Thanks Tom!

Yes, I have already shot a show with the 85mm and the pictures are great. At F.18, the fastest shutter speed I could get was 1/60 s so and I didn't use a tripod. This time around, I will opt for a monopod as it will allow me to get around a bit better.

How much does that Sigma lense run? I have heard mix thoughts on Sigma vs. Canon.

Apparently you have had good luck with yours, please do share more.

I bought it used for $550 from a respected member of the forum. One thing to watch with the Sigmas is to get one that isn't older, or it may not work with your camera without rechipping.

Sigma has some good lenses, but they, like everyone, have a few dogs as well. I only have the one Sigma model so I can't comment on their other lenses.


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May 07, 2004 12:34 |  #68

DieselGirl wrote:
Thanks Tom!

Yes, I have already shot a show with the 85mm and the pictures are great. At F.18, the fastest shutter speed I could get was 1/60 s so and I didn't use a tripod. This time around, I will opt for a monopod as it will allow me to get around a bit better.

How much does that Sigma lense run? I have heard mix thoughts on Sigma vs. Canon.

Apparently you have had good luck with yours, please do share more.

What ISO setting did you use for that show? 100? 400? 800?


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May 07, 2004 14:01 |  #69

Respected my ARSE! :wink:

Sigma does make some super lenses.. the 70-200mm is one of there best. For the price it certainly can't be beat.. and in most cases even compared to lenses at significantly more $$$ it is equal to the task.

Don't be too afraid to boost the ISO when aperture alone doesn't give you the shutter you need. To stop most human motion.. at least 1/125 is usually called for. With the 10D/Rebel 800 ISO exposed properly will give very good results. I have found that and an f/2.8 is usually all I need for great shots in a theatre.


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May 08, 2004 00:01 |  #70

Tom W wrote:
DieselGirl wrote:
Thanks Tom!

Yes, I have already shot a show with the 85mm and the pictures are great. At F.18, the fastest shutter speed I could get was 1/60 s so and I didn't use a tripod. This time around, I will opt for a monopod as it will allow me to get around a bit better.

How much does that Sigma lense run? I have heard mix thoughts on Sigma vs. Canon.

Apparently you have had good luck with yours, please do share more.

What ISO setting did you use for that show? 100? 400? 800?

100

but ask me if i even bothered to check it until now.

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May 08, 2004 00:28 |  #71

OK, bump up that ISO to 400 and you'll be able to get considerably faster shutter speeds and maybe even a little smaller aperture (which will make it a little easier to get the pictures sharp). 800 will give you even more room to play, but you'll want to keep your shots well exposed to avoid digital noise.


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May 08, 2004 00:30 |  #72

CyberDyneSystems wrote:
Respected my ARSE! :wink:

My apologies - I meant well respected. ;)

Sigma does make some super lenses.. the 70-200mm is one of there best. For the price it certainly can't be beat.. and in most cases even compared to lenses at significantly more $$$ it is equal to the task.

Don't be too afraid to boost the ISO when aperture alone doesn't give you the shutter you need. To stop most human motion.. at least 1/125 is usually called for. With the 10D/Rebel 800 ISO exposed properly will give very good results. I have found that and an f/2.8 is usually all I need for great shots in a theatre.

I've seen some of those shots - and they are good.


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May 08, 2004 14:02 |  #73

Tom W wrote:
OK, bump up that ISO to 400 and you'll be able to get considerably faster shutter speeds and maybe even a little smaller aperture (which will make it a little easier to get the pictures sharp). 800 will give you even more room to play, but you'll want to keep your shots well exposed to avoid digital noise.

I will definitely do that next time! Like I said I am still in my learning phase but you guys are making it much more fun than I imagined.

One more question (I know I've said that a bunch already but being a female....well, need I say more? haha)

how do I post an image? Thanks




  
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May 08, 2004 14:05 |  #74

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Tom W wrote:
OK, bump up that ISO to 400 and you'll be able to get considerably faster shutter speeds and maybe even a little smaller aperture (which will make it a little easier to get the pictures sharp). 800 will give you even more room to play, but you'll want to keep your shots well exposed to avoid digital noise.

I will definitely do that next time! Like I said I am still in my learning phase but you guys are making it much more fun than I imagined.

One more question (I know I've said that a bunch already but being a female....well, need I say more? haha)

how do I post an image? Thanks

Here's a thread that hopefully answers the image-posting question:

http://www.photography​-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=22582


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May 08, 2004 14:43 |  #75

Thanks Tom! You are so helpful!

I will be online today stressing out on which L lens to purchase next week.

I AM SOOOO CONFUSED!!!!!!




  
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