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May 01, 2007 14:40 |  #1

The light was terrible, and I wanted a shot of the bluebird, so I set up the tripod and took a time delay. When the shutter went off, the little fella on the left was there as well.
Does anyone recognize this species?


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May 01, 2007 16:29 |  #2

Black phoebe, maybe.

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May 01, 2007 16:38 |  #3

Let me start by saying that it's exceptionally difficult to identify without seeing any tail/feather markings. But I've got two guesses for you.

1. An easter phoebe. They are in your area and are common near farms and bridges. They have dark heads, solid black bills and wag their tails as a habit. Why I don't think this is what you've got? They're almost 6" tall.

2. What I think you've got there is a juvenille eastern bluebird. Right body, beak and tail shape. Right size. The only variation is the chest plummage. It's hard to tell from your pic if the chest is speckled or just bristled feathers. If speckled, it's the baby to the bluebird next to it. Which makes sense to me.

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May 01, 2007 16:54 |  #4

Looks like a phoebe to me and around the feeders, birds mix together with no problems.
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May 01, 2007 18:10 |  #5

Karens right - it's an Eastern Phoebe. Note measurements given in bird books are from the tip of the bill to the tip of the tail when the bird is extended.




  
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May 01, 2007 18:47 |  #6

I figured it was some kind of phoebe, and wanted to get the ball rolling!

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May 01, 2007 19:08 |  #7

TheGreatOg wrote in post #3136046 (external link)
Let me start by saying that it's exceptionally difficult to identify without seeing any tail/feather markings. But I've got two guesses for you.

1. An easter phoebe. They are in your area and are common near farms and bridges. They have dark heads, solid black bills and wag their tails as a habit. Why I don't think this is what you've got? They're almost 6" tall.

2. What I think you've got there is a juvenille eastern bluebird. Right body, beak and tail shape. Right size. The only variation is the chest plummage. It's hard to tell from your pic if the chest is speckled or just bristled feathers. If speckled, it's the baby to the bluebird next to it. Which makes sense to me.

Hope this helps!

It's way too early for a juvenile (let alone a baby), even for Bluebird. This is an Eastern Phoebe. A Black Phoebe is Western species and would be rare in the east




  
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May 01, 2007 21:34 as a reply to  @ Postiemon's post |  #8

Well, it was one of the two. ;) Thanks for the info on the juveniles.


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May 01, 2007 22:21 |  #9

Thanks, everyone, for the help. I didn't recognize the head as a phoebe, but I do believe you're right. I saw a phoebe at the top of the hill a few weeks ago. The tail looks like the phoebe's tail I captured last August here:

https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=204219

Thanks again for the ID. Sorry about the poor image quality.


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May 02, 2007 12:42 |  #10

Postiemon wrote in post #3136774 (external link)
It's way too early for a juvenile (let alone a baby), even for Bluebird. This is an Eastern Phoebe. A Black Phoebe is Western species and would be rare in the east

Welcome to the south. Bluebirds around here are already feeding their second broods of the year and have long since run-off the juveniles of the first brood.

In SC, bluebirds will lay their first eggs in February and the first brood will be fleged by mid to late March.

The EBB in my back yard will nest three times each year - usually two broods almost back-to-back starting in February then a final brood in July. It seems like the number of eggs, hatching and hatchling survival are highest with the early broods.


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May 02, 2007 12:48 as a reply to  @ Rubberhead's post |  #11

That is without a doubt an eastern phoebe. They are very common in your area.

I shot this one in Tennessee last week

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May 02, 2007 13:58 |  #12

And i thought phoebe's were only found in Friends.

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May 02, 2007 15:19 as a reply to  @ bsmith6280's post |  #13

Alright, where's the pellet gun? Someone put bssmith out of his misery. ;)


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May 02, 2007 18:54 |  #14

Rubberhead wrote in post #3140420 (external link)
Welcome to the south. Bluebirds around here are already feeding their second broods of the year and have long since run-off the juveniles of the first brood.

In SC, bluebirds will lay their first eggs in February and the first brood will be fleged by mid to late March.

The EBB in my back yard will nest three times each year - usually two broods almost back-to-back starting in February then a final brood in July. It seems like the number of eggs, hatching and hatchling survival are highest with the early broods.

You're quite right. I wasn't thinking South. We are just getting our first Bluebirds up here now and they are just starting to nest.....It's still an Eastern Phoebe though.




  
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