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Jan 14, 2010 08:33 |  #16

Moogul wrote in post #9389027 (external link)
I noticed the Adobe Gamma, but that seems to be mostly for CRT monitors... the other solutions is some kind of hardware device. Any type of software calibration for LCD's?

Not really. Like you said, that worked better with CRT screens. I've never managed to get an LCD even close with AdobeGamma or the OSX built in 'calibration by eye'. But you might get by. There's a link to a post by Photosguy about a few in the link from my sig. Edit: Here

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Assuming I calibrate my monitor properly, edit in LR, then export to JPG with sRGB, will this mean that other people seeing my jpg on other websites (essentially on another computer) will see the jpg fairly close to what I intended in LR?

Yep. fairly close.... How close depends on their monitor and the browser they use. But yes: All you can do is use sRGB and hope for the best...


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Aug 22, 2010 08:51 |  #17

I'm afraid I have to ressurect this thread one again.

Why is it that when I export from LR3 as JPEG or PNG, the images become over saturated. When I edit in PS CS5 through LR3, the TIFF looks just like the RAW. Then when I save it as JPEG or PNG, it looks fine. The JPEG and PNG only looks saturated when I export directly from LR3.

Can anyone help me fix this?




  
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Aug 22, 2010 08:57 |  #18

Go to the Export dialog box and check the "Color Space" selection in the File Settings section. In most cases you want it set to sRGB.


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Aug 22, 2010 09:02 |  #19

PixelMagic wrote in post #10765872 (external link)
Go to the Export dialog box and check the "Color Space" selection in the File Settings section. In most cases you want it set to sRGB.

That's exactly what it's on right now. That's why I'm so confused. My camera is set to sRGB, so is everything when importing and exporting in LR3.




  
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Aug 22, 2010 09:04 |  #20

When you export the JPEG from Lightroom, what application are you using to view it? Also what operating system are you using?


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Aug 22, 2010 09:25 |  #21

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When you export the JPEG from Lightroom, what application are you using to view it? Also what operating system are you using?

I use the default Windows preview application. I'm on Windows XP 64-bit. I also have a legit 32-bit XP but I installed this instead because I have more than 4GB of RAM.

BTW, I really appreciate you helping me troubleshoot this. I'll post screenshots right now.




  
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Aug 22, 2010 09:28 |  #22

When viewing here on Firefox, the colors for the LR3 image now looks unsaturated and the JPEG looks fine. This is very confusing. LOL.

The LR3 export settings:

IMAGE NOT FOUND
HTTP response: 404 | MIME changed to 'text/html' | Byte size: ZERO


The result comparison:
IMAGE NOT FOUND
HTTP response: 404 | MIME changed to 'text/html' | Byte size: ZERO


Here is the actual JPEG file (very large, unresized):
http://seanzky.com …peg_exported_fr​om_LR3.jpg (external link)



  
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Aug 22, 2010 09:29 |  #23

As far as I know the Windows XP 64-bit Viewer is not color managed so it wouldn't read the embedded color profile. IIRC, color management in Windows Viewer only started with Vista.

What profile is your monitor set to?


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Aug 22, 2010 09:34 |  #24

sRGB also. Well that makes plenty of sense then!

Here's what I've put together so far thank to you and the experiment I just did based on your questions/suggestions:
-The colors on LR3 looks fine
-The JPEG when viewed with the Windows' viewer looks over saturated
-The JPEG when viewed with CS5 looks like LR3
-The JPEG when viewed with Firefox looks like LR3

So it looks like you're right. The Windows XP 64-bit viewer is the culprit. I have a copy of Windows 7 Ultimate from work that I should really install but I'm too lazy to back up (and reinstall) everything. Sigh!




  
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Aug 22, 2010 09:38 |  #25

Problem seems to have been solved. It looks like everything was fine all along. It was the default Windows viewer that sent me running in circles. LOL.

But it's funny how everything looks right in LR3 but the screenshot of LR3 I have above looks under-saturated. With the Windows viewer set aside, why can't LR3, CS5 and Firefox all look the same? Why can't the colors just correspond between the three applications?




  
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Aug 22, 2010 10:52 |  #26

Windows (XP) P&F viewer does read the embedded profile, but ignores the display profile.
If your monitor profile were sRGB, they should look okay.

FF3 is color managed by default for images with embedded profile.
Your screenshots have sRGB profile embedded, so they should look okay if sRGB were your monitor profile.

Not entirely sure what's going on, but something is off.
Wide gamut screen perhaps?

I need more coffee ;)


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Aug 22, 2010 11:17 |  #27

sRGB looking oversaturated in a non-c.m. environment sounds like a wide gamut screen.


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Aug 22, 2010 13:09 |  #28

Yeah, but Sean says monitor profile is set to sRGB.
So in that case, LR, PS and FF3 would also (incorrectly) think the monitor is sRGB.
So images should look okay in all applications, including P&F Viewer (and not okay on our screens)

Unless I need more coffee still ;)

Original image looks more or less like the screenshot of P&F viewer.

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