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May 06, 2007 22:29 |  #1

I've not posted many concert shots as of late. I actually have a collage, media kit and a band promo shot I did for these guys a couple of weeks ago. I'll go back and post that set later in the week.

I delivered a bunch of 8x10s, the media kit and the 20x30 collage they are hanging at the venue last week and decided to shoot while I was downtown Dallas.

Here are a few shots from a couple weeks ago...or was it last weekend..they all seem to run together.

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May 06, 2007 23:24 |  #2

Looks like you just made it at 24mm with that 24-70 in the break room... (That's a lot of camera gear you've got there). Each pic has something special about it, and it is mostly all positive... The (beer) green color in #4, is kinda tough for me to accept, but that's just me...(I'd go as far as to say that, in #3 there is a bit too much hint of blue, in #4 too much hint of green, and # 8 too much hint of brown...)
... otherwise the set stands on it's own, as excellent...


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May 06, 2007 23:35 |  #3

johnstoy wrote in post #3163339 (external link)
The (beer) green color in #4, is kinda tough for me to accept, but that's just me...(I'd go as far as to say that, in #3 there is a bit too much hint of blue, in #4 too much hint of green, and # 8 too much hint of brown...)...

It's called stage lighting. They use gels for effect. And when you shoot under those lights you pretty much have to take what the lighting guy gives you, for better or for worse (and that green has got to be the worst!).

I like all these. Very well done. I wish the green room shot was brighter, though.


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May 07, 2007 00:11 |  #4

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It's called stage lighting. They use gels for effect. And when you shoot under those lights you pretty much have to take what the lighting guy gives you, for better or for worse (and that green has got to be the worst!).

I like all these. Very well done. I wish the green room shot was brighter, though.

I shoot into, and right through stage lights all the time... There are nearly 40 threads by me from shows since September of 06... I try to post process them out... With RAW it's pretty easy, but much of the atmosphere is lost...


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May 07, 2007 07:06 |  #5

I agree I'm not always a fan of the lights the LD decides to put on the performers.

If there is a specific need for an image, like a promo shot or it is going to be used in a publication where the viewer might not understand that these were stage shots then i might consider removing some of the hue.

I do think though that what makes great performing arts photography is capturing what the person seeing the show saw. I also know the venue would sure hate for me to remove all of the color they've spent 10's of thousands of dollars creating.

With respect to the green room shot it was very dark in there, what you see is a correct exposure. I actually like the dark feel in the image.

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May 07, 2007 07:16 |  #6

#1 , 3 and 7 are very nice.


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May 07, 2007 09:35 |  #7

i love 1,3,and 6! great job. 2 is good also, but not as great as the others :)


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May 07, 2007 12:09 |  #8

I like #1 as well as others. I love some of the keywords in your IPTC data, like "Best Photographer".


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May 07, 2007 12:35 |  #9

Hahaha. Nice.
I did see however when looking at the exif that the images are AdobeRGB... Not good.


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May 07, 2007 13:13 |  #10

René Damkot wrote in post #3166190 (external link)
Hahaha. Nice.
I did see however when looking at the exif that the images are AdobeRGB... Not good.

AdobeRGB is very good, since we print CMYK My worflow is based on what is best for print. If I feel the images don't pop on the web I can covert them, I don't feel a have a quality issue on any of these from a web perspective. It an easily be converted to sRGB if I wanted to.


I would also ad that if you have to look at the EXIF data to determine if an image is good then you have made up your mind about a specific process then the images themselves.:p


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May 07, 2007 13:17 |  #11

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I like #1 as well as others. I love some of the keywords in your IPTC data, like "Best Photographer".

My keywords are based on a report I got from a company that specializes in web site optimization. I can't find the list but I do have the top 200 search words used....

You won't ever see a narcissistic attitude with my stuff, the keywords are simply a "marketing" decision.:)


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May 07, 2007 13:20 |  #12

you mean like this:

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A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:

has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)
is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)
requires excessive admiration
has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations
is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends
lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others
is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her
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May 07, 2007 14:19 |  #13

taygull wrote in post #3166408 (external link)
AdobeRGB is very good, since we print CMYK My worflow is based on what is best for print

Yes, and so is mine. But not for web. I'm on a Mac using Safari, so the images appear here as they should. All people using Windows (XP) are seeing them less saturated...
As I'm sure you know. Just thought I'd mention it, since you might have forgotten in this case...

I looked in the Exif based on the keyword mention by Dwight...

I like the idea of using keywords based on search results... Smart. Does it work?


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May 07, 2007 14:21 |  #14

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Yes, and so is mine. But not for web. I'm on a Mac using Safari, so the images appear here as they should. All people using Windows (XP) are seeing them less saturated...
As I'm sure you know. Just thought I'd mention it, since you might have forgotten in this case...

I looked in the Exif based on the keyword mention by Dwight...

I like the idea of using keywords based on search results... Smart. Does it work?

funny I really don't know if it works as I just started doing it. I'm doing it in preparation for my website getting a "backend" tuneup soon. I figure I should start adding this info as my images come in, making it part of the workflow. I see it as one of those things I need to be more disciplined in doing.

They look fine on my monitor and I'm on XP so I'll review them on another montior at the office.


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May 07, 2007 14:29 |  #15

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They look fine on my monitor and I'm on XP so I'll review them on another montior at the office.

Hmmm, now I'm not so sure anymore that you knew what I meant...
I was referring to a non-color manged app like Internet explorer or Firefox, vs. a color manged one like Photoshop or Safari...

There is a link in my sig that might clarify things (or merely make them more complicated at first ;))


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