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CDickinson
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May 07, 2004 18:19 |  #1

Still plugging away - but starting to use my macro for something other than food shots......not sure about this one at all.

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May 07, 2004 21:28 |  #2

CDickinson wrote:
Still plugging away - but starting to use my macro for something other than food shots......not sure about this one at all.

C

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I like it, nice simple background and not too busy. The flower is awesome, its a Bleeding Heart.
I took almost the EXACT same shot of these flowers in my yard 3 days ago.

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May 08, 2004 14:32 |  #3

Macro's with thse d-camera's are almost no-brainers. That is -- they always look great !

My preference is for more sunlight and possibly a different background-- hence shooting position.

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May 09, 2004 07:47 |  #4

Thanks !

What kind of background is more enhancing ? I have a few more of this one with different positions.....I was trying to shoot straight on so I wouldn't lose details in the entire stem and could still blur out the background.....also, I did shoot with more sunlight but I kept losing detail because of blown out highlights......

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May 09, 2004 07:59 |  #5

Snap!

I've got one of those in my garden as well:

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I prefer your's though! While my pic is a bit brightre the DOF is way too small.

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May 09, 2004 08:14 |  #6

Calis wrote:
I prefer your's though! While my pic is a bit brightre the DOF is way too small.

Sorry Calis but CDickinson's is not only better regarding DOF but also resolution, color saturation, sharpness and brilliance are way better.
Leighow, I have problems understanding what a better background would be.

CDickinson, I like this picture very much.




  
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May 09, 2004 08:20 |  #7

agreed.


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May 09, 2004 11:27 |  #8

CDickinson wrote:
Thanks !

What kind of background is more enhancing ? I have a few more of this one with different positions.....I was trying to shoot straight on so I wouldn't lose details in the entire stem and could still blur out the background.....also, I did shoot with more sunlight but I kept losing detail because of blown out highlights......

C

I should be clear -- I am talking generally here.
I am saying that ANYONE can crank off a flower in the garden. The challenge -- as I see it is to try to come up with a more original composition. For example, maybe a few rows or half flowers like this that fill the screen and "work" because the light and shadow knocks you dead, maybe -- if I knew your garden, the same flower against a brick wall, or some ornament in the yard. Maybe you should have a competition on that flower and see if anyone can deliver something equally beautiful -- but unexpected!

These are some quick -- and totally different ideas --- that I am posting here -- only because they werte easy to pull from a 2002-3 PPT "storage" presentation.

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May 09, 2004 13:31 |  #9

I totally get what you are saying about the challenge being finding an original composition - playing with the background....however, I was shooting in a garden at low light levels and I actually wanted low light --- it would bring the green down and I could bring up the pink and white in ps....there wasn't brick wall or a tree or an ornament to use....and at this point I just wanted to shoot something that would be a decent composition with the flowers on the stem in focus and the background somewhat knocked out...

I'm sitting laughing because really, I haven't done any photography in ten years, much less digital so its kinda like starting all over and I'm way into finding something original --- believe me, I tend to bend rules all over the place...but I'm kinda stuck on learning to use the camera, see what the heck I'm interested in shooting, finding my way around ps....then I can bend as many rules as possible.

I like the idea of a contest with this particular flower - not sure it would go far tho because the flowers are gonna die off soon - might be worth it tho just to see what people do with it

I do have to say I don't think anyone can knock off good photos of flowers or anything else for that matter -- if that were true, there would be a lot of great artists running around...but "vision" and design and all those elements of good art are not inherent in all people....original is a word that is relative to each person-- or at least that's how I see it...I like the pics you posted quite a bit -- great colors, composition is good, but I don't see them as highly original (please note, I'm saying "I").

Anyway, I'm off on a writing jag and I should stop while I'm here....I'm not actually trying to defend the photo I took at all -- just saying my thought processes as I took it...and I really appreciate this thread and the thoughts and ideas expressed!!!

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May 27, 2004 12:27 |  #10

Calis wrote:
Snap!
I've got one of those in my garden as well:
http://www.pbase.com/i​mage/28489363.jpg (external link)
I prefer your's though! While my pic is a bit brightre the DOF is way too small.

I would not be too quick to judgement here. This is a fine shot -- in fact the range of greens and the DOF give it a kind of misty, mysterious, "secret garden" look. The varied sizes of the flowers add a dynamic to the shot. The white extensions with their water droplets are a bonus. This is one shot that would make a terrific 2 ft print.




  
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May 27, 2004 12:53 |  #11

CDickinson wrote:
I totally get what you are saying about the challenge being finding an original composition - playing with the background....however, I was shooting in a garden at low light levels and I actually wanted low light --- it would bring the green down and I could bring up the pink and white in ps....

I guess thatl an artist friend of mine would say that this is a bit too linear. Calis's shot is a bit less of a broadside and there we see a kind of dynamic in the flow of the buds. Also, its lighter "air" seems to have worked out well

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I'm sitting laughing because really, I haven't done any photography in ten years, much less digital so its kinda like starting all over and I'm way into finding something original


A lot of us are in a similar boat. I've used a Minolta SR-1 since 1961 -- but in the last 20 years I shot -- at best -- a roll or two on vacation. Digital certainly opens the door to a world of color and experimentation. Commenting on "posts" makes guys like me "beleive" that they are experts!

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I do have to say I don't think anyone can knock off good photos of flowers or anything else for that matter -- if that were true, there would be a lot of great artists running around...but "vision" and design and all those elements of good art are not inherent in all people....original is a word that is relative to each person--

Well I would say that last year quite a few members posted some pretty startling flowers. Some in the garden. Some under controlled lighting. Check out Sledghamer (I think that that is the speling!). Mitch has not been active this year -- his young and growing family has him on a leash!

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or at least that's how I see it...I like the pics you posted quite a bit -- great colors, composition is good, but I don't see them as highly original (please note, I'm saying "I").


Well, you are right. I posted those as examples of what I have tried to do to get away from the dead-on flower shot. I have two good ones somewhere. A water lilly and a Ladyslipper Wild Orchid. Even so, macros fill the LCD and if you can get a bead on a composition, it is point and click.

But I took the following shot today, and it reminded me that much (flower) and other photography is best done in lower (non-noon hour) light. This is one of my wife's tulips that got moved by a squirrel to a bushy area of her garden! Anyway, the sun was close to -- but not beaming on this flower. See what you think. My wifle likes the color !

QUESTION: Would you brighten this image?


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May 31, 2004 06:47 |  #12

Great colors!!! I wouldn't alter those on this at all.....I've been shooting my neighbors flowers in gardens...its not easy...esp with macro, low light levels, rain, etc..
I love the photo...

C


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May 31, 2004 14:53 |  #13

C

Well I see what you mean -- especially the West winds that blow after a day of rain! Have I been successful without a tripod? Well perhaps -- at least I a few images that might make 'good' seed catalogues. What I have run into is:

1: terrible skill in using the G2 that may also relate to the auto-focus function that seems to get drawn away from the flower patch to patched of sun/shadowed light.
2: "trouble" when trying to action the G2's MANUAL FOCUS. It is a human engineering nightmare. Either that ot I may need a pair of Jeweller's glasses.
3: a macro function seems intelligent, but may require me to purchase a sharper set of glasses.

Anyway to console my "bleeding heart", here is final shot of those same red tulips caught in afternoon light (maybe I should crop to the top flower):


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