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May 14, 2007 14:32 |  #1

G-day people,
Few days ago I've bought 30 1.4 and to my disapointment it FRONTFOCUSES. So I've got unlucky too, like many other users of this lens. I had yesterday session with model, I shot tethred and I've seen that focus is not 100% but continued using this lens thinking I would be able to pull extra focus in pp. I have about 200 images and silly to say, but 90% of the shots are made with 30 1.4. I don't really know what the hell I was thinking (probably - that doesn't happen to me). I was doubting my focus and recompose technique, then I've tried to choose the closest focusing point... Still no luck. I also had weird thoughts about extra shallow DOF at f9? :) Now, you all know how it goes when it doesn't go good, you start thinking silly (but still keep shooting with that prime, although you have all of your arsenal nearby - fight with a devil). Anyway, I'm calling shop tomorrow morning and hoping to bring the siggy in the afternoon there. In 5 weeks I'm going for vaccation, and I really need this lens for some portraits, otherwise it will proove to be wrong invesment in the wrong time. I still have nifty, and what I discovered to be stellar for head shots sigma 150 ex macro, plus all of the zooms. Whish me luck, and here are the proofs.

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You can obviously see the missfocusing and that her dress is more in focus than her face, also on the first sample, hat is focussed, but face oof.

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May 14, 2007 15:24 |  #2
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I had to return this same lens 4 times for this problem and never got a good copy!!! Then I finally decided to go with a Canon 35L. After using it, I don't know why I didn't just buy the Canon to begin with.


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May 14, 2007 15:33 as a reply to  @ richardho11's post |  #3

I had a copy of this lens. Mine was even worse than that !

It had a focal plane that wasn't paralel to the sensor ! If I took a shot of a wall perfectly straight, the left hand side of the frame would be in focus and the right hand side would be slightly out. Every shot.

I thought that if Sigma could get it THIS wrong in the first place, there was no point sending it back to them to fix it. I sold it and now (eventually) own the 35L. Like Richard said, I can't believe I didn't just go for the best first.

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May 14, 2007 15:42 |  #4

Trust me, I would have gone for L, but currently I am in need for that lens range with limited budget. I really like sigma, I own 3 of them and planing buying 24-70 also from them. I have no L fever, but if I had budget, I would certainly buy Canon in 95% of the cases.
Did anybody got this lens back fixed (recalibrated) from sigma with good results?


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May 14, 2007 15:53 |  #5

I had the Sigma for a week or so. Mine front focused far worse than that on subjects further than 6 feet. (like 2 feet misfocus).

I exchanged it for the 28 f/1.8 and have been very happy with it.


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May 14, 2007 15:55 as a reply to  @ vladnl's post |  #6

I don't want to sound like a chronic Sigma-basher, but I'd advise against the 24-70 EX. I've had one for a couple of months and I'm selling it as soon as possible. Horrible focusing. Slow, noisy, in-accurate (really hit-and-miss). Really bad resistance to flare. Very pronounced distortion at 24mm.

Erm . . . sorry.

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May 14, 2007 15:57 as a reply to  @ quickben's post |  #7

It's sharp, though . . .


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May 14, 2007 16:15 |  #8

So far no positives :)
I've checked invoice, I can return it in 8 days, so I'll give a try to another copy, otherwise...


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May 14, 2007 16:20 as a reply to  @ quickben's post |  #9
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Let me explain how horrible my 4 copies were... I would use center af to take a photo of the car across the street from me ( from where I was sitting, the mail box on my side of the street was about 1 foot to the left away from the car across the street). This was done to test the backfocus of this lens. Later when I looked at the photos, my mailbox on my side of the street was sure enough in focus and the car was completely out of focus! This test was done 5 times. *sigh*


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May 14, 2007 16:30 |  #10

a sigma lens with front focussin problems- surely not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol!!
Only kidding- i guess the downside of sigma lenses is the poorer build quality and the higher number of faults- if you want the convenient price tag it looks as though you have to bounce them back to the factory until you are satisfied- something that is far easier than here in the uk.
There are alot of members here that are delighted with their re-calibrated sigma 30mm- the results are impressive, depends how much efforts you want to go through.


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May 14, 2007 16:37 |  #11

I'm kinda newby here--but I have this lens and I have not really experienced that unless I am extremely close to subject and on f/1.4. What is the best way to test for back or front focusing issues? I can see where the hat and the dress above are a bit sharper than the face, but with women, don't you want to soften the face focus a bit anyway? I think it could be sharper than it is though. It doesn't seem proper than so many would be bad, could it be camera communication with the lens?


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May 14, 2007 17:20 |  #12

vladnl wrote in post #3205023 (external link)
Did anybody got this lens back fixed (recalibrated) from sigma with good results?

I sent mine in about 1.5 years ago for a quick AF adjustment and it's perfect now. Assuming the tech knows what he/she is doing, it should only take one service trip. Here is how a properly-focusing/normal-functioning 30EX compares to the 35L:

http://www.pbase.com/l​ightrules/30v35_1st (external link)
http://www.pbase.com/l​ightrules/30v35_2nd (external link)

and to the 28f1.8:

http://www.pbase.com/l​ightrules/28v30 (external link)

No reason to get the 35L for a 1.6x body.




  
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May 14, 2007 19:59 as a reply to  @ LightRules's post |  #13

The focusing on this particular lens is so erratic it can't ever be relied upon.


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May 14, 2007 21:16 |  #14

jfb318 wrote in post #3206245 (external link)
The focusing on this particular lens is so erratic it can't ever be relied upon.

And looking at your sig, I'm sure you're very objective :lol: FWIW, AF with mine is about as good as it gets for an f1.4.




  
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May 14, 2007 21:54 |  #15

I don't know if sigma send all the bad problem copy to US/UK. In Japan all of my friends or I know using 30mm f1.4 (canon, nikon and sigma mounts) got a good copy.
I agree with lightrules, no reason to get the 35L for crop cameras. Unless the cost doesn't matter to you.

I guess if you have a bad copy the smart thing to do is to get it calibrated instead of going through copies with this lens.


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