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Jul 26, 2007 21:53 |  #16

try posting a screenshot of it being edited on LR, and then the exported pic.


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Jul 27, 2007 05:34 |  #17

i am sorry if this suggestion was already covered.
but....

while in lightroom select the image you want.
right click the image and select EDIT IN ADOBE PHOTOSHOP
then check the box that says EDIT a Copy With Lightroom Adjustments. and also check the box that says STACK WITH ORIGINAL.

im only saying this because i dont think that the external editors are getting the lightroom adjustments.

sorry dude if you tried all that already. but its all i can think of...

are the images darker than the raw file or the same as the raw file?
when you are in lightroom what are the exact steps you take to send the file to an external editor?


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Jul 27, 2007 05:44 |  #18

the color profiles are probably being discarded.
i tried to open up that file. i put the file in lightroom then exported to photoshop. there was a pop up dialog box that said something about color profile. the only time the image was darker than lightroom was when i discarded the color profile that was embedded in the image.

which takes me back to my original post but sorry if that's something you went over already in your trying to fix that issue. keep us posted


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Apr 09, 2008 01:23 as a reply to  @ SilverOnemi's post |  #19

Sorry to dig a topic up from the grave - I will be quick though.

I am having almost the exact same problem this user had - my photo's look awesome in LR but are completely washed out when exported? I have tried to export them backward and forward, and have tried to research for a solution the last three nights - It is driving me nuts because aside from this huge problem I love LR - can anyone help me with this problem.
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Apr 09, 2008 04:21 |  #20

Same problem here. Looks great in LR but once exported i lose some color and detail. usually darker than in LR. Pics still look better than the original, so i cant complain that much.




  
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Apr 09, 2008 10:10 as a reply to  @ JustinSegura's post |  #21

Well, mine don't look better at all. I really want to be able to use LR but if I can't save the file even remotely close to what it looks like in LR than it is pointless.




  
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Apr 09, 2008 11:25 |  #22

Everybody, and I do mean EVERYBODY, should be able to at least EXPORT a file that looks the same outside of LR as it does inside. Printing is another ballgame, but let's try one thing at a time....

Everybody who's having problems, work along with me here....

1. Find a file a like. You're going to be looking at it for a while! We're going to call it 'Original' here for identification purposes.

2. Export 'Original', set to ProPhotoRGB 16bit. We'll call that 'ProPhoto16'.
3. Import that file (ProPhoto16) into Lightroom. Does it look identical to the original?

4. Export 'Original', set to sRGB 8bit. We'll call that 'sRGB8'.
5. Import that file (sRGB8 ) into Lightroom. Does it look identical to the original? There may be slight differences due to the fact you're working with a much smaller colour space.

6. If they don't match, report back....

7. Now let's pick another program to view the file...

8. Open the files (ProPhoto16 & sRGB8 ) into Photoshop, if you own it. Depending on your colour settings, one may look odd.

I would suggest switching your Photoshop Colour Settings to 'Preserve Embedded Profile' to minimize mismatching problems. This is marked in Blue (ignore the red section, this screenshot was originally for another forum)

IMAGE NOT FOUND
HTTP response: 403 | MIME changed to 'application/xml'


9. If it still doesn't match, report back with your Photoshop colour settings.

So far so good?

10. Now open your 2 files (ProPhoto16 & sRGB8 ) into Windows Picture Viewer or another non-colour-managed application (web browser etc). The ProPhoto16 one looks grotty, right? That's because it's not colour managed. The sRGB8 one is as close as you'll get to a match in a non colour managed program.

If you're still having trouble after all this, next port of call is corrupted monitor profiles (LR uses the monitor profile differently to most other programs), or dodgy graphics card drivers. But one step at a time......

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Jun 08, 2008 11:04 |  #23

I guess the OP got it resolved... would be nice to know what the problem turned out to be...




  
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Sep 06, 2009 22:53 as a reply to  @ rnourse's post |  #24

I would too because I am having the same problem and can't find out whats wrong... :mad:


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Sep 07, 2009 09:39 |  #25

Did you follow the steps Victoria gave?


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Sep 07, 2009 19:33 as a reply to  @ René Damkot's post |  #26

Ok so I tried however this is the result I am getting, the same... First picture is the picture I am wanting... (Sorry for the huge pics)

http://farm3.static.fl​ickr.com …97913209_9de17d​758c_o.jpg (external link)



Secondly... this is the image that I am getting.

http://farm3.static.fl​ickr.com …98693564_a6a5f5​f567_o.jpg (external link)

I am trying everything possible but still cannot find a clue as to what is going on. I am using a 30 Day trial version of lightroom but the previous trial version never did this and I am using the same computer so I am lost. I am getting the full version of lightroom at the end of the month and if my trial version is acting like this, then I am surely not going to buy it. I used to be able to edit my raw photos in CS2 but it seems as if my CR2 Raw images does not work any more with CS2 and gives me a message that says it is an invalid file. I tried to update CS2 but it says that there are no current updates. I tried to force an update by downloading the camera raw update but it failed. I am totally clueless and now have no working programs to edit images... can someone please help!


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Sep 07, 2009 19:59 |  #27

Internet explorer is not color managed, so it will display wrong.

Not sure what the "ProPhotoRGB" text means, since you are showing the same image twice?

ACR 3.7 will not open CR2 files from your 50D unless you convert them to DNG first. I see hardly any point in doing that, since LR2 is a way better raw converter then ACR prior to 4.6

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Sep 07, 2009 20:08 |  #28

René Damkot wrote in post #8601707 (external link)
Internet explorer is not color managed, so it will display wrong.

Not sure what the "ProPhotoRGB" text means, since you are showing the same image twice?

ACR 3.7 will not open CR2 files from your 50D unless you convert them to DNG first. I see hardly any point in doing that, since LR2 is a way better raw converter then ACR prior to 4.6

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Have a read in the link from my sig, or here (external link), here, here (external link) or here (external link).

It doesnt matter if I am displaying it in internet explorer, it shows the same in whatever I view it in other than LR2. The ProPhoto RGB and sRGB is the two images I showed them in comparing the two as Victoria explained. I am still lost but will give what you mentioned a look at and try some other things if it tells me to.


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Sep 07, 2009 20:15 |  #29

Night Hawk wrote in post #8601760 (external link)
It doesnt matter if I am displaying it in internet explorer, it shows the same in whatever I view it in other than LR2. The ProPhoto RGB and sRGB is the two images I showed them in comparing the two as Victoria explained. I am still lost but will give what you mentioned a look at and try some other things if it tells me to.

Okay. Step by step.

What other software doe you have?
In non color managed software, a ProPhotoRGB image will look awfully desaturated. I don't think the first image is ProPhotoRGB.

I'm sure it's not ProPhotoRGB / 16bpc as Victoria suggested, since it's a jpg ;)

Try steps 1 through 5 first. Then 7 and 8. You started off with step #10, and I don't think you did that step right either...

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1. Find a file a like. You're going to be looking at it for a while! We're going to call it 'Original' here for identification purposes.

2. Export 'Original', set to ProPhotoRGB 16bit. We'll call that 'ProPhoto16'.
3. Import that file (ProPhoto16) into Lightroom. Does it look identical to the original?

4. Export 'Original', set to sRGB 8bit. We'll call that 'sRGB8'.
5. Import that file (sRGB8 ) into Lightroom. Does it look identical to the original? There may be slight differences due to the fact you're working with a much smaller colour space.

6. If they don't match, report back....

7. Now let's pick another program to view the file...

8. Open the files (ProPhoto16 & sRGB8 ) into Photoshop, if you own it. Depending on your colour settings, one may look odd.

I would suggest switching your Photoshop Colour Settings to 'Preserve Embedded Profile' to minimize mismatching problems. This is marked in Blue (ignore the red section, this screenshot was originally for another forum)
IMAGE NOT FOUND
HTTP response: 403 | MIME changed to 'application/xml'


9. If it still doesn't match, report back with your Photoshop colour settings.

So far so good?

10. Now open your 2 files (ProPhoto16 & sRGB8 ) into Windows Picture Viewer or another non-colour-managed application (web browser etc). The ProPhoto16 one looks grotty, right? That's because it's not colour managed. The sRGB8 one is as close as you'll get to a match in a non colour managed program.

If you're still having trouble after all this, next port of call is corrupted monitor profiles (LR uses the monitor profile differently to most other programs), or dodgy graphics card drivers. But one step at a time......


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Sep 07, 2009 20:42 |  #30

René Damkot wrote in post #8601804 (external link)
Okay. Step by step.

What other software doe you have?
In non color managed software, a ProPhotoRGB image will look awfully desaturated. I don't think the first image is ProPhotoRGB.

I'm sure it's not ProPhotoRGB / 16bpc as Victoria suggested, since it's a jpg ;)

Try steps 1 through 5 first. Then 7 and 8. You started off with step #10, and I don't think you did that step right either...

Only Software that I have is Canon Utilities which is garbage compared to what I have done in LR2 and PS2. I also have PS2 and LR2 however both of them aren't working properly.

As for the steps in LR2, I have done all of the steps unless my LR2 trial version is jacked somehow and its not applying the edits to the image.

Step 1: I got the file as it is the only .CR2 file that I have of it
Step 2 & 3: I imported that file and applied the edited settings as desired then exported it as ProPhoto RGB (it didnt say 16 bit as I am assuming thats what ProPhoto RGB is) then clicked save.
Step 4 & 5: Did the same as step 2 & 3 but only saving it as sRGB (again, it didn't say 8bit as I'm assuming thats what sRGB is)
Step 6: Reported back after all steps were complied with
Step 7: I used every last program that I had that could view the file only to find out that every last single one of them looked the same other than in LR2. (PS2, IE, Windows Picture Viewer, etc...)
Step 8: Again as stated in step 7, I opened it up in PS2 and same result. Checked my color settings and they were the correct settings as shown by Victoria.
Step 9: See step 8
Step 10: Once again, same result. See step 7, 8 and 10


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