speirs2 Senior Member 268 posts Joined Mar 2007 Location: Suffolk UK More info | May 19, 2007 15:02 | #1 I think the first one is a Ruddy Turnstone & the second is a Semipalmated Plover.  HOSTED PHOTO please log in to view hosted photos in full size.  HOSTED PHOTO please log in to view hosted photos in full size.
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davewalters Senior Member 458 posts Likes: 1 Joined Sep 2006 Location: Account inactive please delete More info | May 19, 2007 18:23 | #2 Semipalmated Plover and Ringed Plover are notoriously difficult to seperate and I couldn't confidently do it from that shot - Basically where are you, if your America or thereabouts it is then a Semipalmated Plover.
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exerda Member  245 posts Joined Mar 2006 Location: Fairfax, VA More info | Definitely right on the turnstone... not so sure about the plover. Where was the photo taken? It's not a breeding adult Semipalmated, anyway--could be a juvvie or nonbreeding adult Semipalmated, or perhaps a Piping, if we're talking North America, depending on the region and time of year taken. Canon 6D; 7D mkII; EF 500mm f4L II; EF 24-105mm f4L; EF 300mm f4L IS; EF 16-35 f2.8L II; EF 24-70 f2.8L II; EF-S 10-22mm f3.5-4.5;1.4x TC III; 2x TC III Speedlite 580 EX II
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May 20, 2007 06:37 | #4 exerda wrote in post #3233410  Definitely right on the turnstone... not so sure about the plover. Where was the photo taken? It's not a breeding adult Semipalmated, anyway--could be a juvvie or nonbreeding adult Semipalmated, or perhaps a Piping, if we're talking North America, depending on the region and time of year taken. Taken yesterday in the Caribbean
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exerda Member 245 posts Joined Mar 2006 Location: Fairfax, VA More info | May 20, 2007 15:24 | #5 speirs2 wrote in post #3235153 Taken yesterday in the Caribbean Hmm... well, I've dug into both the National Geographic Complete Birds of North America and the Shorebird Guide (both of which have enough of vagrants and rare species listed I would have thought they might work for a Caribbean bird) and still don't have a definitive answer. Canon 6D; 7D mkII; EF 500mm f4L II; EF 24-105mm f4L; EF 300mm f4L IS; EF 16-35 f2.8L II; EF 24-70 f2.8L II; EF-S 10-22mm f3.5-4.5;1.4x TC III; 2x TC III Speedlite 580 EX II
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exerda Member 245 posts Joined Mar 2006 Location: Fairfax, VA More info | Here's what an ornithologist friend had to say about the plover; he thinks it is a semipalmated: As far as the Caribbean plover, Semipalm sounds like the best bet. Every year some shorebirds, especially younger ones, spend the summer on the wintering grounds or somewhere along the migration route instead of heading all the way back north. Even though Pipings are paler, there is a lot of variation depending on molt and lighting, and Semis can looks pretty pale also. Canon 6D; 7D mkII; EF 500mm f4L II; EF 24-105mm f4L; EF 300mm f4L IS; EF 16-35 f2.8L II; EF 24-70 f2.8L II; EF-S 10-22mm f3.5-4.5;1.4x TC III; 2x TC III Speedlite 580 EX II
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davewalters Senior Member 458 posts Likes: 1 Joined Sep 2006 Location: Account inactive please delete More info | May 24, 2007 08:52 | #7 I did mention that 5 days ago........
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Thanks very much, i'll put it down as a semipalmated then.
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