photos & illustrator cs3

hi
i have some questions

does somebody use illustrator cs2 or cs3?

i know is a vector editor , but could use to edit photos?

has features to edit photos

i know http://www.adobe.com/p​roducts/illustrator/up​grade/
it has a new feature

live color , very powerful to edit colors

my question is , could be good for a photographer?
has nice feature for a photographer like live color

please don't tell to try , because i found the adobe program difficult, tough, hard

i would like to listen your experience

thanks
have a nice day

The only time that I use Illustrator is when I am working with graphics within one of my documents. I don't see alot of tools in here for editing images from start to finish. I do have CS3 Illustrator and while they have made some nice additions it is not a photo editor, imo.

Of course you could always download and try.

ssim wrote in post #3241539
The only time that I use Illustrator is when I am working with graphics within one of my documents. I don't see alot of tools in here for editing images from start to finish. I do have CS3 Illustrator and while they have made some nice additions it is not a photo editor, imo.

Of course you could always download and try.

thanks
so live color is a in vain tool to tune up photo color?

Live Color is about moving groups of swatches around as a group - it's not for bitmapped images at all. For example, I can grab a group of swatches such as the group I tend to use for Illustrator graphics that are headed into Powerpoint - and rotate the whole lot in hue in one go, watching the results as I do. If you were to do that in Photoshop, you'd use a Hue / Saturation Adjustment Layer or similar (though there far more powerful Hue / Saturation / Brightness adjustment tools in Camera Raw 4 and Lightroom).


I have the entire Creative Suite 3 Design Premium on my machine these days (sadly, since buying and installing the CS3 upgrade I've had to spend more time working in Illustrator and InDesign than playing in Photoshop). You can access some bitmap filters in Illustrator - but they're only a subset of what's in Photoshop, and by no means make up a complete solution.

Indeed, I'd go as far as to say that Illustrator is completely unsuitable as a photo tool; indeed, if you want to do much to a photo, you land up placing it as a Photoshop object in either Illustrator or InDesign, or creating a TIFF or JPEG and using that. It's much the same as there's some paths functionality in Photoshop, but you really can't use Photoshop for vector art.

David

DavidW wrote in post #3242291
Live Color is about moving groups of swatches around as a group - it's not for bitmapped images at all. For example, I can grab a group of swatches such as the group I tend to use for Illustrator graphics that are headed into Powerpoint - and rotate the whole lot in hue in one go, watching the results as I do. If you were to do that in Photoshop, you'd use a Hue / Saturation Adjustment Layer or similar (though there far more powerful Hue / Saturation / Brightness adjustment tools in Camera Raw 4 and Lightroom).

I have the entire Creative Suite 3 Design Premium on my machine these days (sadly, since buying and installing the CS3 upgrade I've had to spend more time working in Illustrator and InDesign than playing in Photoshop). You can access some bitmap filters in Illustrator - but they're only a subset of what's in Photoshop, and by no means make up a complete solution.

Indeed, I'd go as far as to say that Illustrator is completely unsuitable as a photo tool; indeed, if you want to do much to a photo, you land up placing it as a Photoshop object in either Illustrator or InDesign, or creating a TIFF or JPEG and using that. It's much the same as there's some paths functionality in Photoshop, but you really can't use Photoshop for vector art.


David

thanks david
so photoshop is the only alternative

is there nothing better?
what i'm looking for is a easy tune up of colors
i don't like hue/saturation & selective color command
i 'm looking for something of alternative ,easy maybe with a whell to tune up my colors

Have you tried the HSB features in Lightroom (or Adobe Camera Raw 4 in Photoshop CS3; the two programs will share settings if you turn on XMP in Lightroom Preferences). That sounds more like what you're looking for. Arguably Lightroom is the better implementation, as there's a tool that you can pick up and drag colours around in the photo with.

David

DavidW wrote in post #3248740
Have you tried the HSB features in Lightroom (or Adobe Camera Raw 4 in Photoshop CS3; the two programs will share settings if you turn on XMP in Lightroom Preferences). That sounds more like what you're looking for. Arguably Lightroom is the better implementation, as there's a tool that you can pick up and drag colours around in the photo with.


David

thanks
with lightroom can i edit jpg or tiff or only raw?

Lightroom will handle JPEG and TIFF as well as RAW. Adobe Camera Raw allows you to use the same trick (handle JPEGs and TIFFs as if they were RAW); after all, they're using the same RAW code, which has been enhanced to handle JPEG and TIFF. Starting with RAW files is better from an image quality point of view, but it's no disaster starting with JPEG.

Probably your best bet is to download the Lightroom trial version. If you like it, you simply have to buy Lightroom and insert your serial number within 30 days to convert it to a full version.

David

DavidW wrote in post #3252377
Lightroom will handle JPEG and TIFF as well as RAW. Adobe Camera Raw allows you to use the same trick (handle JPEGs and TIFFs as if they were RAW); after all, they're using the same RAW code, which has been enhanced to handle JPEG and TIFF. Starting with RAW files is better from an image quality point of view, but it's no disaster starting with JPEG.

Probably your best bet is to download the Lightroom trial version. If you like it, you simply have to buy Lightroom and insert your serial number within 30 days to convert it to a full version.


David

u know i don't know how can i edit jepg or tiff in camera raw?

JPEG and TIFFs can be opened in Camera Raw 4 only - in other words, Photoshop CS3. It doesn't work in earlier versions. My apologies - I'd meant to put Adobe Camera Raw 4 in my previous post, but left out the version number.

You'll also need to explicitly open the file in Camera Raw - it isn't the default. One way is to right click in Bridge CS3, and choose Open in Camera Raw... - or set your default for JPEG and TIFF in Bridge CS3 to Camera Raw (Preferences -> Thumbnails, Prefer Camera Raw for JPEG and TIFF files). There's also a preference you can set in Photoshop CS3 to use Camera Raw for JPEGs (Preferences -> File Handling, Prefer Adobe Camera Raw for JPEG Files).

David

DavidW wrote in post #3257481
JPEG and TIFFs can be opened in Camera Raw 4 only - in other words, Photoshop CS3. It doesn't work in earlier versions. My apologies - I'd meant to put Adobe Camera Raw 4 in my previous post, but left out the version number.

You'll also need to explicitly open the file in Camera Raw - it isn't the default. One way is to right click in Bridge CS3, and choose Open in Camera Raw... - or set your default for JPEG and TIFF in Bridge CS3 to Camera Raw (Preferences -> Thumbnails, Prefer Camera Raw for JPEG and TIFF files). There's also a preference you can set in Photoshop CS3 to use Camera Raw for JPEGs (Preferences -> File Handling, Prefer Adobe Camera Raw for JPEG Files).


David

thanks david for your help
have a nice day