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May 17, 2004 12:10 |  #1

with ETTL. :(

I took pictures at 2 different events this weekend. One was mostly indoors with poor lighting the other was outdoors with some bright sunshine pictures and some in the shade. I mostly shot this pictures in my camera's P mode and left the flash (Sigma 500DG Super) in ETTL mode because I did not have time to setup most of these shots. They were shooting opportunities that required quick decisions on the shots. Just about all of my pictures were underexposed. I had similar results in the past with the built-in flash as well. I know that this is a known problem with ETTL but I need help on getting more properly exposed shots. I need recomendations from those of you that have mastered this art. Most of the pictures could be rescued in PS but when you correct an underexposed shot you inevitably end up with noise and this requires more editing time. Please help.

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May 17, 2004 14:25 |  #2

(1) You are shooting RAW, aren't you?

(2) How far underexposed?

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May 17, 2004 15:01 |  #3

Bob,

Yes I am shooting raw but even with raw you do lose a lot when you adjust them. They are underexposed by 1 to 2 stops. I will post some examples tonight after I get home.

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May 18, 2004 05:25 |  #4

What camera?


EOS R6 Mark II - Sigma 50/1.4 Art - Sigma 14-24/2.8 Art - Canon EF 70-200/2.8L Mark III - Godox Xpro-C - Godox TT685C x2

  
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May 18, 2004 06:30 |  #5

I don't know if you did this or not. When I shoot flash I always check the histogram with the first couple of shots. I make an adjustment with FEC( Not on 300D :( ) and leave it unless I change rooms/setting and then I check again. That usually works.
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May 18, 2004 07:40 |  #6

It is a 300D/DRebel. I have the Sigma 500 DG Super so I do have access to FEC. I guess my biggest complaint seems to be the lack of consintency with the results that I am getting. If I crank the FEC up to +1 I'll usually get decent pictures but sometimes they will still be underexposed and on rare occasions they may be overexposed.

Do you guys normally shoot Manual when using flash?

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May 18, 2004 09:05 |  #7

OviV wrote:
Do you guys normally shoot Manual when using flash?

Almost never.

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May 18, 2004 10:52 |  #8

If you haven't read this it's required reading to understand how E-TTL works:

http://photonotes.org/​articles/eos-flash/ (external link)

When I had a Digital Rebel I'd usually shoot in P mode and do a flash exposure lock (FEL) on what I want properly exposed, usually a face or shirt. I'd get very consistant results.


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May 18, 2004 12:06 |  #9

dtrayers,

I've had good results with the method you suggested. However, when shooting at an event with people walking around, they usually think you took the shot already and walk away.

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