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EF 70-200mm f/4L IS -- my concert lens?

 
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Jun 06, 2007 14:25 |  #1

I'll soon be getting either an EOS 20D or a 30D for use in concert photography. I'm new to photography and have never owned a DSLR. Right now I'm using a PowerShot S3 IS, which is not up to the task of concert photography for many reasons. Since I've never actually put a lens onto a DSLR camera and used it, naturally I've been reading up on lenses and asking questions. (You can find a previous discussion of mine on lenses here: https://photography-on-the.net …php?p=3319846#p​ost3319846)

Some people have suggested that I get a wide angle lens. However, such lenses can distort a performer's face under certain conditions. Since I'm new to photography, I would prefer to start with something more straightforward that I can't accidentally warp someone's face with into something ugly. Lenses that warp light like a wide angle or a fish eye are definitely ones I want to get and learn how to use, but not right now. I would prefer to wait until I have more experience under my belt.

I understand that the quality of the lens is of paramount importance in musical performance photography. I need something fast and clear and that can zoom. Right now the S3's 10X optical zoom has enough range for me (though not the same quality of many DSLR lenses), though I probably will need more range in the future when I graduate from photographing only local bands. Here's the lens I'm thinking of getting:

Canon Zoom Telephoto EF 70-200mm f/4L IS
http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …70_200mm_f_4L_I​S_USM.html (external link)

I like the fact that it's image stabilized. From what I've read, it seems like it would lend itself well to concert photography. Am I right? Or is there something else that I would be better off using? Also, they obviously use different terminology when describing digicams versus DSLRs. How does my S3's 10X optical zoom compare to the zoom of this lens?

I also don't always have to zoom. At many of these local shows, I can get up as close to the stage as I want. If I'm not zooming, will this lens still perform well? Or would I be better off changing the lens to something else when I'm shooting close? Maybe this one could be my lens when shooting close:
Canon Normal EF 50mm f/1.8 II Autofocus Lens
http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …Normal_EF_50mm_​f_1_8.html (external link)

At only $79, it's probably worth having if it gives me something the EF 70-200mm f/4L IS doesn't even if it's to a very limited degree.

Or is there such a thing as a 50 mm image stabilized lens? Granted I won't be zooming with a 50 mm lens, but I like image stabilization for when I do creative blur shots. For example I've been able to get some nice blurs of a drummer's arms in motion by using a shutter speed of 1/4 or 1/6.

I've decided to forego getting a lens kit. Some people have recommended that I get one, but from what I've read those lens kits don't have the high end low-light lenses I need. If I get the 30D, it's an extra $500 for the kit. Wouldn't I be better off applying that 500 toward high-end lenses that I'll actually use? Then over time I can collect lenses as I need them. Concert photography is by far the most important type of photography for me, though I probably will at least dabble in some other forms for now. I might be doing some food photography and possibly artistic nude photography, but these types are way below concerts in my priorities. Would a lens kit be useful for to me in some way? I have heard that there's such a thing as a kit that includes L series lenses, but I've yet to find one. If anyone knows where such a kit is, I'd appreciate a heads up.

Many, many thanks to everyone who has responded to my previous posts, and thanks in advance for this one.

cheers, Tom

Oh, almost forgot: bokeh is important to me. A lot of times a stage is cluttered with all kinds of distracting musical equipment. It will be nice to focus on the performer and blur all that junk out.


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Andrew ­ B.
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Jun 06, 2007 14:52 |  #2

The Canon 85mm f/1.8 is a superb concert lens with good background blur and no need for IS. Relatively cheap too.

Andrew


EOS 1D MkII, EOS 10D, 17-40L, Sig 10-20, Sig 18-200 OS, 50mm f/1.8, 85mm f/1.8, 100-400L IS, Kenko 1.4x TC, 500D close-up lens, 550EX

  
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Jun 06, 2007 15:17 as a reply to  @ Andrew B.'s post |  #3

Thomas,

For low light and good bokeh, you will need to consider the 70-200 f/2.8 (preferably with IS). Here is a good shot of a band at a wedding reception - it is at the end of the thread.

https://photography-on-the.net …hread.php?t=319​830&page=2


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Canon 6D; 30D; S95; 24-105 f/4L IS; 70-200 f/2.8L IS; 50 f/1.4; 1.4x Extender; 580EX

  
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Jun 06, 2007 16:34 |  #4

Go with the 30D as the 20D is discontinued, and the larged LCD is very helpful. Since you will be in low light areas you will want that little extra inch on the screen to make sure you got the right picture.

Id recommend going with the 70-200 2.8 non-ISinstead of the f4 IS. You will most likely be in an area where you will have room to be comfortable enough to take your shots without the IS. Learning curve with every lens but it will youll be glad you got the faster lens later down the road. About 150 dollars more but worth the price.

As for the kit lens. For 80 bucks to have something else in the short range field i say why not?

My 2 cents.


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