1Ds MK III

Will Canon launch a 1Ds MKIII camera in the near future? I think the 1D MKIII is a great camera, but I wouldn't mind seeing a 1Ds MKIII. Any rumors?

I doubt it's official. But I've heard talk about if there was one, possibly a 21 megapixel version. As far as their business runs, its only the 'normal' thing to happen. so I suppose it will come out eventually.

What is it that you want out of a new Ds that you don't get with your 1DsMKII right now. I have the 1Ds and the 1DMK3. They serve different purposes. The resolution on the 1Ds meets just about any needs right now. I do alot of work for an advertising agency and they have yet to come back and tell me that there isn't enough there yet.

The current rumor is that the 1Ds3 or 5D2 may be announced this fall. However, there were some Canon reps back in March who said no new cameras would be announced this fall. That could have been true or maybe not. So, who knows. I think we are still in the "Speculation Phase" - we haven't progressed to full-on Rumors yet.

I have to say that I agree with SSIM... I haven't yet figured out what a 1Ds3 could provide over a 1Ds2.

1. More resolution? Ok, interesting... but why?
2. Faster frame rates and increased buffer? Nice to have, but "need" to have? Nah.
3. Better ISO? That's great... but not too critical in a studio with controlled lights.
4. Lighter weight? Absolutely. (This is very important to me personally... Just say No to Camera Hand Cramp!)
5. Improved Custom Functions? Sure.
6. Something else?

One thing to note: There are a lot of shooters who have relied on their 1Ds2 cameras for quite some time. These cameras take a beating over time and the shutters do give out eventually. Although you can replace the shutter, I think one motivator could be shooters who are facing "End of Life" issues for the 1Ds2 cameras.

With all that said, I will admit I am interested in the 1Ds3 and the 5D2. I think Canon will have to offer "something" original to move the products and I am very curious what that might be.

SSIM,
You are right. However, I would like to see a 1Ds MKIII with these features below. I am spoiled. lol

1. 3 inch LCD screen with live view as 1D MKIII
2. Dial controls of the ID MKIII,
3. Self Cleaning sensor.
4. Dual DiGiC III processors.
5. Flash synch up to 1/4000 second.
6. 5 fps shooting with 16.7 mega pixel or higher files.
6. All features from 1D MKIII

Photoman65 wrote in post #3354478
6. 5 fps shooting with 16.7 mega pixel or higher files.
6. All features from 1D MKIII

I hope they get it over 5 fps.... If they hit 7, I would consider it. I can'tt hink of anything in the 1D3 that wouldn't be in the 1Ds3. (I have a 1D3 and this thing is incredible.)

The LiveView function is a must! It's even more important on a 1Ds3, given how it could be used for landscape and product photography.

it's almost given it will incorporate design from the 1D3, 5+fps would make it an already awesome all-around camera

but how about making it the size of the EOS-1v (fat chance in this generation - perhaps when they unify the 1D models)...smaller with optional grip...

or adding a new flash system design to catch up with the "competitors"?

rant: what is everyone's infatuation with big screens lately?? i can see improving the viewable angle, lcd components, but a 3"+ screen? i usually just glimpse focused point/histogram after a shot and that's it. i like a smaller weather-sealed 1-series, not a Hummer of a 1-series.

So far the best most reliable rumors indicate this Fall with announcement around October 10th? and release in November. So far indications are still in the 22MP range, but it better have at least 14-bit of the 1DM3 if not the indicated 16-bit, if 22MP and 16-bit then 5FPS is probably the limit of speed which matches with other rumors. But anything faster would be bonus.

So while I want 16.7MP at 8FPS, which 22MP at 8FPS in 12-bit should be possible now, 22Mp at 14-bit would be pressing it and 22MP at 16-bit would probably be too much.

But 16-bit would beat medium format systems which are 14-bit right now so very cool in that case.

Also don't forget the ever running Canon MF crusher x2 camera, which if that rumor is true with 16-bit could crush the medium format companies.

In any case, if I can afford it, I am planing on getting one if it meets my requirements that the new 1-series overall is a noticeable improvement over my current camera. 16-bit at even 3FPS and 16.7MP would do that, but I really want 5FPS or more in that case.

22MP, how will the current lenses work? Will we have to buy all new ones. I didn't think the current ones would resolve that much detail. I'd rather stick with 16.8MP and keep the same lens system compatible with my other cameras. Any rumers on what lenses it will take / need?

Forget about FPS on a full frame camera. That's not the point. FOV and resolution is the point of a 1Ds body. And frankly, I could care les if the new one has more MP. 16.8 is plenty.

Why a 1DsIII?

The new battery system which makes for a lighter body and more shots per charge.

Dual DiG!C processors and their manifold benefits.

6400 ISO.

Lower noise.

Sensor cleaning technology.

3" LCD. My goodness, the top of the line FF camera has the worst LCD in the world. And that includes P&Ss.

Live view.

Highlight Tone Priority.

Simplified control system of the 1D3.

Greater possible customization of AF and exposure settings.

I mean, let's face it, the 1DsII may have the MP and be FF but the body is showing its age in a big way.

If you need an LCD, you don't need a 1Ds Mk.III. Seriously, all I need is a histogram and I'm happy. Some giant 5 inch LCD won't help me. My camera has a viewfinder. Many P&S don't. No need for me.

FPS? There is already a camera that does this. Next.

ISO? Skip higher, I want cleaner.

Sensor cleaning. Well the dust is STILL there once shaken off. I like cleaning it myself oddly. I like swearing.

Live view? I personally think this is a dumb feature. *Give me something else.

Highlight tone? ACR does that for me already. *Give me something else.

*I think it's time for a built in ST-E2. Bring back a-dep or have a hyperfocal readout. Weather sealed hot shoe please. iPod or laptop touch pad-like area to select AF points would be bad ass. The joystick works for me though.

AeroSmith wrote in post #3399779
Forget about FPS on a full frame camera. That's not the point. FOV and resolution is the point of a 1Ds body. And frankly, I could care les if the new one has more MP. 16.8 is plenty.

Why a 1DsIII?

The new battery system which makes for a lighter body and more shots per charge.

Dual DiG!C processors and their manifold benefits.

6400 ISO.

Lower noise.

Sensor cleaning technology.

3" LCD. My goodness, the top of the line FF camera has the worst LCD in the world. And that includes P&Ss.

Live view.

Highlight Tone Priority.

Simplified control system of the 1D3.

Greater possible customization of AF and exposure settings.

I mean, let's face it, the 1DsII may have the MP and be FF but the body is showing its age in a big way.

Hmmm....now that we got our 1D Mark IIIs we're switching to this thread on the 1Ds Mark IIIs. I bet we start seeing the others too as soon as they have a chance to play with their 1D's and start dreaming of all those features in the higher resolution 1Ds.

cosworth wrote in post #3399832
If you need an LCD, you don't need a 1Ds Mk.III. Seriously, all I need is a histogram and I'm happy. Some giant 5 inch LCD won't help me. My camera has a viewfinder. Many P&S don't. No need for me.

FPS? There is already a camera that does this. Next.

ISO? Skip higher, I want cleaner.

Sensor cleaning. Well the dust is STILL there once shaken off. I like cleaning it myself oddly. I like swearing.

Live view? I personally think this is a dumb feature. *Give me something else.

Highlight tone? ACR does that for me already. *Give me something else.

*I think it's time for a built in ST-E2. Bring back a-dep or have a hyperfocal readout. Weather sealed hot shoe please. iPod or laptop touch pad-like area to select AF points would be bad ass. The joystick works for me though.

LCDs? Sorry but they're darned useful for macro and landscapes.

FPS, agreed, who needs it in a 1Ds body? That's what the 1DIII is for.

Higher ISO also means cleaner images at low ISOs. Give me dual DiG!Cs.

Sensor cleaning? Can't hurt at f/11-f/16.

Live view? Awesome for macro work. My guess is it'll be nice for landscapes as well. Heck, it's a decent feature for any studio work. If the camera is the equal of MF cameras we may as well get the MF view.

Higlight Tone Priority? A nice in camera feature.

Have you seen all the possible customization in the 1D3? The 1Ds deserves the same.

And finally, the 1Ds deserves the simpler more intuitive interface of the 1DIII.

You know it's coming.

i wonder what is the new price would be? If it hit 10K range, i would change to Hasselblad. BTW, Dual DiGiC III is nice feature i want to see in the future 1ds.

TooManyHobbies wrote in post #3399226
22MP, how will the current lenses work? Will we have to buy all new ones. I didn't think the current ones would resolve that much detail. I'd rather stick with 16.8MP and keep the same lens system compatible with my other cameras. Any rumers on what lenses it will take / need?

I suspect the 16-35 Mk-II and the 85/1.2 Mk II already have higher resolution, but most lenses are not going to suddenly produce bad pictures if the camera out-resolves the lens, We just return to the olden days when the lens mattered more. And with PS and other corrective tools, I am sure they will comeup with something to correct for the defects. At worse, it will shoot as good as it does now. If I remember the actual physics right though, you will need a FF 35mm sensor with over 50MP to exceed the point at which the lens will actually starts preventing you from getting better pictures from more MP. I am presuming "L" class lenses.