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Erik_L
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Jan 02, 2012 18:16 |  #5071

Quick question - i'm seeing more and more shots with missed focus. I was doing an event the other night using the 1D III, 35L and 580 EX II. AF assist would help get focus quickly, but many of the shots were slightly missed. Adjusting the microadjust would help in some cases, make it worse in others. My mirror is kinda "hazy" looking - would cleaning the mirror help make AF more accurate? Any other suggestions?

I know the 35L is notorious, as is the 1D III...


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Jan 02, 2012 19:40 |  #5072

Erik_L wrote in post #13636021 (external link)
Quick question - i'm seeing more and more shots with missed focus. I was doing an event the other night using the 1D III, 35L and 580 EX II. AF assist would help get focus quickly, but many of the shots were slightly missed. Adjusting the microadjust would help in some cases, make it worse in others. My mirror is kinda "hazy" looking - would cleaning the mirror help make AF more accurate? Any other suggestions?

I know the 35L is notorious, as is the 1D III...

Probably user error. Most likely reason.


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Jan 02, 2012 19:44 |  #5073

gh patriot wrote in post #13636382 (external link)
Probably user error. Most likely reason.

Perhaps, but i've been getting great results from this combo under other conditions.


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Jan 03, 2012 02:07 |  #5074

I don't think that canon's AF is randomly focusing correctly, my own experience tends me to think that most of people don't know how to point and track subjects.
I use a 1DMKIII, 5DMKII and 24L+85L+135L+300L2.8 .. and all of these can focus perfectly. There is no major speed and accuracy difference between lenses or bodies.
Only 5DMKII is limited to central focus point for sport (other points can't track a subject accurately)

With 85L, due to thin DOF on 1DMKIII and ultra thin DOF on 5DMKII, it's much more a user challenge to focus and keep tracking on pilots helmets or subjects eyes. I use it with 1DMKIII for much faster subjects than any human running or jumping on the earth, and I get more than 90% perfectly focused pictures.

In short, people are mostly not trained enough to predict subjects movements to point and track eyes. Probably, they even don't know the correct setting of the 1DMKIII for their sport.


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Jan 03, 2012 07:54 |  #5075

Mark III has not been getting a ton of use since it's big brother arrived but going back
through some pics I found this one which has to be one of my best and at ISO 6400
to boot.

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Jan 03, 2012 20:17 as a reply to  @ Joemt's post |  #5076

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Jan 03, 2012 21:01 |  #5077

Hi everyone,
First time posted here. Last weekend, I went to Imperial Sand Dunes, CA and took some photo to share. (using 70-200mm IS MK I) AF, Tracking and AI Servo working out beautiful.

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Jan 03, 2012 21:03 |  #5078

Link broken!


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Jan 03, 2012 21:04 |  #5079

Our Buddy. Playing around with a second 580 flash.

17mm, f8, 1/100th, iso100

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Another few from the other day. My mates live in this thing.

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Jan 04, 2012 02:34 as a reply to  @ HSVBOS's post |  #5080

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Jan 04, 2012 15:14 |  #5081

newworld666 wrote in post #13637859 (external link)
I don't think that canon's AF is randomly focusing correctly, my own experience tends me to think that most of people don't know how to point and track subjects.
I use a 1DMKIII, 5DMKII and 24L+85L+135L+300L2.8 .. and all of these can focus perfectly. There is no major speed and accuracy difference between lenses or bodies.
Only 5DMKII is limited to central focus point for sport (other points can't track a subject accurately)

With 85L, due to thin DOF on 1DMKIII and ultra thin DOF on 5DMKII, it's much more a user challenge to focus and keep tracking on pilots helmets or subjects eyes. I use it with 1DMKIII for much faster subjects than any human running or jumping on the earth, and I get more than 90% perfectly focused pictures.

In short, people are mostly not trained enough to predict subjects movements to point and track eyes. Probably, they even don't know the correct setting of the 1DMKIII for their sport.

That's the thing - I have excellent success in tracking things with the 1D III, even in crappy lighting

http://www.flickr.com …5/sets/72157628​466130955/ (external link)

it's one-shot with lenses, particularly the 35L, that give me trouble. Seems to be usually good in sunlight.


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Jan 04, 2012 15:28 |  #5082

Erik_L wrote in post #13646525 (external link)
That's the thing - I have excellent success in tracking things with the 1D III, even in crappy lighting

http://www.flickr.com …5/sets/72157628​466130955/ (external link)

it's one-shot with lenses, particularly the 35L, that give me trouble. Seems to be usually good in sunlight.

Do you have any "missed" shots you can crop around the missed area and post?

And, are there points around the missed area that are in focus?

No kidding that low-light shooting can be challenging -- camera focus points are bigger than the little red squares and can latch on to areas that have more contrast than what you are trying to get. Keeping your eye glued to the viewfinder, and learning to spot the little shifts of focus are valuable skills! Also, shooting wide open can let even little shifts turn things out of focus.


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Jan 04, 2012 15:36 |  #5083

tonylong wrote in post #13646595 (external link)
Do you have any "missed" shots you can crop around the missed area and post?

And, are there points around the missed area that are in focus?

No kidding that low-light shooting can be challenging -- camera focus points are bigger than the little red squares and can latch on to areas that have more contrast than what you are trying to get. Keeping your eye glued to the viewfinder, and learning to spot the little shifts of focus are valuable skills! Also, shooting wide open can let even little shifts turn things out of focus.

I was having the biggest problem at a recent event - I was tasked with doing "stand and repeat" for about an hour doing pictures of people in front of a sponsor backdrop - I can't post any of the pics.... Even at f/2 and a pretty good distance, it would consistently miss focus - I manually put the point over someone's face, would not recompose, and still had problems. AF assist from my 580 was enabled but didn't seem to help. the light was tungsten lights in the room. I was getting good and pissed.

^^All with the 35L

As for spotting focus shifts - the Ec-S screen is in the mail :) With the current screen, I can't see a 3" focus shift in the viewfinder.

Here's another great example of my "poor technique"

http://www.flickr.com …5/sets/72157627​679630804/ (external link)

of the maybe 600 photos I took, I think 3 had missed focus. 35L and Sigma 85 f/1.4 all day. I'm pretty picky about what's "sharp" I've seen a lot of "professional" photos I would have thrown out for being not well enough in-focus.


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Jan 04, 2012 15:50 |  #5084

my 1D mkIII is weird, some games i feel it doesn't focus accurately for 60% of the game, another game it will focus for 80-90% accurately, another game 50 50, so i am not sure what's going on, i am happy with the results that produced by this camera when properly accurately in focus, i hope this camera will do the job for what i need it for about 95% or higher, or if it will keep 80% for many times i will be happy, 1D markIIn is not better from what i experience, and i can't be sure that 1D mk4 will be better than both either.


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Jan 04, 2012 15:55 |  #5085

Tareq wrote in post #13646730 (external link)
my 1D mkIII is weird, some games i feel it doesn't focus accurately for 60% of the game, another game it will focus for 80-90% accurately, another game 50 50, so i am not sure what's going on, i am happy with the results that produced by this camera when properly accurately in focus, i hope this camera will do the job for what i need it for about 95% or higher, or if it will keep 80% for many times i will be happy, 1D markIIn is not better from what i experience, and i can't be sure that 1D mk4 will be better than both either.

My 1D IIn seemed to nail focus more consistently than my 1D III, by a pretty wide margin.


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