i still do not fully understand color management... help...!

flipteg wrote in post #3375730
i think it's starting to make sense now... all those years viewing images in a non calibrated monitor before i bought the calibration unit, i remember that when viewed in a non color managed app, the sRGB looked just right and the AdobeRGB looks really unsaturated... this means that my uncalibrated monitor was too much on the cool side (which was confirmed by the calibration software's before and after view)... now that it is properly calibrated (shifted to the warm side) sRGB's now look over saturated (especially on the red's, greens, and skin tones), and the AdobeRGB's, which used to look unsaturated, now looks just right...

However, on a calibrated monitor when viewing images in a non-color managed application the sRGB images should look correct, not the AdobeRGB images. In a color managed application you should see little to no difference in the two as long as the profiles are embedded in the images.

In2Photos wrote in post #3371321
I made the jump and haven't looked back. In fact sometimes I have trouble helping out someone with a Bridge/CS2 question because it has been so long since I used them.

I'm probably going to sound like a moron, but what is LR? All I've ever used is CS/bridge.

kkaimiv wrote in post #3375832
I'm probably going to sound like a moron, but what is LR? All I've ever used is CS/bridge.

LR is Lightroom, Adobe's newest software for photographers.

I guess I need to look into that.....but what about cs3?

Lightroom advice. Ok guys, I have been using Bridge, CS2 for ages for all my image to print processing. A mate suggested I download LR - which I have done- . and it looks great, but the $64,000 question is how do LR and CS2 intergrate together? What should i be doing in LR, and what should I then import into CS2? - What is the correct "workflow"? - Do i now disregard Bridge altogether? - I have a 30D and print to an Epson 3800 which the shop guy said I should set to Adobe RGB,- Lightroom wants to export in Photo pro RGB,,, ok,,, so what should I do? I would appreciate some answers from you guys that have worked it out. Many thanks in anticipation.! - Mark.

kkaimiv wrote in post #3375842
I guess I need to look into that.....but what about cs3?

Well CS3 isn't really "new". It is more an update to CS2. But yes, very popular amongst photogs as well. The two serve very different purposes, IMO but CS3 can do many things similar to LR. LR can do some things that CS3 can not, and CS3 can do MANY things that LR can not.

In2Photos wrote in post #3375777
However, on a calibrated monitor when viewing images in a non-color managed application the sRGB images should look correct, not the AdobeRGB images. In a color managed application you should see little to no difference in the two as long as the profiles are embedded in the images.

but when you convert your own RAW files, does your sRGB match what you see in Lightroom...?

or should i even worry about all of these...? as long as i'm color correcting for color managed apps, i should be ok right...? and should i just continue using AdobeRGB...?

flipteg wrote in post #3375871
but when you convert your own RAW files, does your sRGB match what you see in Lightroom...?

Yes, it does. I have yet to see a major difference between any profiles when converting. After all that is what is supposed to happen. The image should look the same after conversion.

Use whatever color space works for you. Just stick with it. As long as you are using color managed applications that are setup correctly you should be fine.

flipteg wrote in post #3375730
i think it's starting to make sense now... all those years viewing images in a non calibrated monitor before i bought the calibration unit, i remember that when viewed in a non color managed app, the sRGB looked just right and the AdobeRGB looks really unsaturated...

That's what's supposed to happen...

flipteg wrote in post #3375730
this means that my uncalibrated monitor was too much on the cool side (which was confirmed by the calibration software's before and after view)... now that it is properly calibrated (shifted to the warm side) sRGB's now look over saturated (especially on the red's, greens, and skin tones), and the AdobeRGB's, which used to look unsaturated, now looks just right...

Nope. 'Warm' or 'cool' have nothing to do with the saturation.

What is your monitor gamma set to? It should be at 2.2.

Click the link from my sig, and go to the monitor test links. I suspect your monitor profile is off in some way.

Normally, an sRGB file will look close to 'normal' in a non color managed application.
Any image in a colorspace with a wider gamut (Adobe RGB, ProPhotoRGB more so) will look 'whashed out' to 'totally off'.

flipteg wrote in post #3375871
but when you convert your own RAW files, does your sRGB match what you see in Lightroom...?

It should look the same in PS, and allmost the same in a non colormanaged application, like most web browsers.

flipteg wrote in post #3375871
or should i even worry about all of these...? as long as i'm color correcting for color managed apps, i should be ok right...? and should i just continue using AdobeRGB...?

I suggest you get an understanding about color management....
As long as you don't have that, I agree with some previous posts: sRGB will do fine.
If you are going to use an other working space, you *must* understand CM, and have everything set up right...