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Jun 13, 2007 07:55 |  #1

Had on the passenger seat of my car my 350 with it's 70-200 attached, turned a corner quick and it fell into the foot well and banged around a bit.

It seems OK, but images are not as sharp as I think they should be.

Re shot scenes I have done before and it's lost a very slight edge in sharpness.

Trying my other lenses and they seem a tad softer.

1. Would the 70-200 L be fine with a small drop like that?
2. I guess the 350 is more delicate from a small drop?

Could the 350 be damaged after a short fall like that?, I would have thought it would not work at all.

I guess I need another body to test the lenses and decide if it's the body at fault. I sure hope it's not the lens, my 70-200 never leaves the body I like the way the images just pop. But now they seem to have lost the pop.

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Jun 13, 2007 07:59 |  #2

Hi Ray,

sorry to hear about your misfortune ...

there are a number of things that can possibly go wrong ... mis-aslignment of the lens, but also e.g. the mirror assembly that is a critical part in AF performance.

If your camera gives softer images with all lenses, then it might be that ... try out your lenses on another camera to be sure.

Of course, there is also the possibility that you are more critical now because you suspect there is a problem, or that you did too quick a test. Put up some 100% crop examples of images with enough light, a fast enough shutter speed with the same lens before and after with the relevant EXIF information but without telling us which was before and which was after :wink: Also, try to do a focus test, maybe it is that.

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Jun 13, 2007 08:51 as a reply to  @ Andy_T's post |  #3

do some very detailed, critical test shots and find out for yourself. Those "L" lenses are TOUGH.


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Jun 13, 2007 09:11 as a reply to  @ Jon, The Elder's post |  #4

you may just be having a placebo.


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Jun 13, 2007 11:36 |  #5

sorry to hear that. i'll try it with another body if you have some friends around. or take it to camera shop and ask them if you could use your card trying one of their body. if came out bad, tell them you'll have it repaired thru them. i'm almost sure they will do you a favor.

the scenario happened to me also just the other day. it's good thing my gears were all in the camera bag intact when i'm travelling. safety first. that sudden break will cost you, especially if you palce your stuff in front seat. next time, i'll fasten it with the seatbelt.


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Jun 13, 2007 14:53 |  #6

Jon, The Elder wrote in post #3369873 (external link)
do some very detailed, critical test shots and find out for yourself. Those "L" lenses are TOUGH.

I would hope the L is OK but the 350 would bite the dust before the lens.... again I hope.


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Jun 13, 2007 14:53 |  #7

sgamuk wrote in post #3370737 (external link)
sorry to hear that. i'll try it with another body if you have some friends around. or take it to camera shop and ask them if you could use your card trying one of their body. if came out bad, tell them you'll have it repaired thru them. i'm almost sure they will do you a favor.

the scenario happened to me also just the other day. it's good thing my gears were all in the camera bag intact when i'm travelling. safety first. that sudden break will cost you, especially if you palce your stuff in front seat. next time, i'll fasten it with the seatbelt.

Mostly it does live in the bag... but I was being lazy... so my fault. But using the seat belt is a good idea...


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Jun 13, 2007 14:55 |  #8

Jaetie wrote in post #3369990 (external link)
you may just be having a placebo.

I think you maybe right.... you do indeed get more aware of something that may or may not be a problem.


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Jun 13, 2007 14:58 |  #9

Andy_T wrote in post #3369667 (external link)
Hi Ray,

sorry to hear about your misfortune ...

there are a number of things that can possibly go wrong ... mis-aslignment of the lens, but also e.g. the mirror assembly that is a critical part in AF performance.

If your camera gives softer images with all lenses, then it might be that ... try out your lenses on another camera to be sure.

Of course, there is also the possibility that you are more critical now because you suspect there is a problem, or that you did too quick a test. Put up some 100% crop examples of images with enough light, a fast enough shutter speed with the same lens before and after with the relevant EXIF information but without telling us which was before and which was after :wink: Also, try to do a focus test, maybe it is that.

Best regards,
Andy

If anything I wold think the 350 is faulty.

i'm yet to do more detailed test... need daylight for this.

But for now, just two shots, the RED dot is the focus point.

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Canon: EOS 5DmkII • 50D • 40D • 350D • 100 f2.8L IS Macro • 70-200 f4L • 24-105 f4L IS • 17-40 f4L • 50 f1.4 • 60 f2.8 Macro • 85 f1.8 • 430EX • 580EX II • ST-E2
Sigma: 10-20 f4-5.6 EX DC HSM • 30 f1.4 EX DC HSM • 17-50 f2.8 EX • 24-70 f2.8 EX DG MACRO
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Jun 13, 2007 15:00 |  #10

I imagine it's just paranoia!


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Jun 13, 2007 15:56 |  #11

I see no porblem other than overexposure.


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Jun 13, 2007 16:09 |  #12

The photos look okay, maybe try something more controlled on a tripod. Shoot a stationary object with some different lenses and if they are all soft, then it's the camera.

I dropped my 24-105 IS from a sofa onto wooden floors and the lens was fine. Nothing wrong with it and I'm still shooting sharp photos.


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Jun 13, 2007 17:12 as a reply to  @ pagnamenta's post |  #13
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I dropped my 350 XT with a Canon 50mm prime on it while I was hiking in the mountains. It hit the rocks hard and fell down the trail about 5 meters before landing on a rock. I thought for sure it was ruined, but it's taken thousands of shots since then and not a single problem. Of course there are a couple scratches, but just aesthetic.


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Jun 14, 2007 02:44 |  #14

Sometimes they are like tank :D


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