new to Raw...

Bodog wrote in post #3379909
Unfortunately, PS 7 does not support any RAW format...

How could that be? My PS7 has an "open as" in my browser and a drop down box for raw ?? (although it doesn't seem to work)...why do the bother if id doesn't support it....

PEACHMAN wrote in post #3381490
How could that be? My PS7 has an "open as" in my browser and a drop down box for raw ?? (although it doesn't seem to work)...why do the bother if id doesn't support it....

Anyway you could show us a screen shot of that?

In2Photos wrote in post #3381512
Anyway you could show us a screen shot of that?

It's on my computer at home...as I can get it looking like that in PS then I'm sure I cane save it and post it....quite soothing actually....I'll post tonight

PEACHMAN wrote in post #3381490
How could that be? My PS7 has an "open as" in my browser and a drop down box for raw ?? (although it doesn't seem to work)...why do the bother if id doesn't support it....

At one time there was a version of Camera Raw available from Adobe for PS7 (for an additional cost), but it was withdrawn from the market when CS was released. Even if you had that installed, it only supported some of the original RAW formats. AFAIK it didn't even support the original Digital Rebel or 10D.

Bodog wrote in post #3382180
At one time there was a version of Camera Raw available from Adobe for PS7 (for an additional cost), but it was withdrawn from the market when CS was released. Even if you had that installed, it only supported some of the original RAW formats. AFAIK it didn't even support the original Digital Rebel or 10D.

Yes...I have been looking at plugins for PS7 ...most of what I'm finding are plugins that don't work with 7 and further don't work with the 20D.... What ta heck?? I assumed raw was raw , like jpeg is jpeg...no matter what camera it comes from it still works in photo shop, elements etc...the computer world never ceases to amaze me!

PEACHMAN wrote in post #3382735
Yes...I have been looking at plugins for PS7 ...most of what I'm finding are plugins that don't work with 7 and further don't work with the 20D.... What ta heck?? I assumed raw was raw , like jpeg is jpeg...no matter what camera it comes from it still works in photo shop, elements etc...the computer world never ceases to amaze me!

RAW formats are proprietary. There is no standard. Even within the Canon lineup EVERY camera has a different format (even though they are now all CR2 files). This means that software companies have to develop software every time a new camera is released (or at least upsates to old software).

In2Photos wrote in post #3382760
RAW formats are proprietary. There is no standard. Even within the Canon lineup EVERY camera has a different format (even though they are now all CR2 files). This means that software companies have to develop software every time a new camera is released (or at least upsates to old software).

Yiiiiii! So what do I do ?? Get into CS2 the only thing I can do now? And does that support the 20D?...

PEACHMAN wrote in post #3382933
Yiiiiii! So what do I do ?? Get into CS2 the only thing I can do now? And does that support the 20D?...

Rather than buy CS2 you should get CS3 unless there is a significant price advantage. I believe you can still buy the upgrade version of CS3 from PS7. And yes the 20D is supported. Of course there is always DPP like mentioned before. It came free with your camera.

PEACHMAN wrote in post #3382933
So what do I do ?? Get into CS2 the only thing I can do now? And does that support the 20D?

There are a bunch of RAW conversion programs out there. You can probably even find Raw Shooter Essentials downloadable somewhere if you search for it (it was a free program, discontinued when Adobe bought the company). The latest version of Raw Shooter Essentials supports the 30D and all the cameras before it. Another free option is DPP which has been mentioned.

Let's see... Bibble, Capture One Phase One, Breeze Browser, and I know there's a few more Raw Converters out there. And they'll all support the 300D and 20D certainly. Of course there's Lightroom which I mentioned earlier, and Apple's Aperture for the Mac fans.

Your best bet at this point is to use DPP. People tend to really like its color rendering. Then download the 30-day trial of Lightroom and decide if you like it enough to buy it.

aren't you glad you decided to shoot RAW?

Curtis N wrote in post #3383203
Your best bet at this point is to use DPP. People tend to really like its color rendering. Then download the 30-day trial of Lightroom and decide if you like it enough to buy it.

Agreed ... latest version 3.something is very good. Bibble is my preferred converter but waiting on version 5 to arrive and also for time to try CS3 to see if the RAW side is better than CS2, which isn't good enough IMO.

My head is feeling very thick............

I am very new to the raw files thing also so please take this with a grain of salt. What I have been doing is transfering my files to a folder. Go to the software that came with your 20D. Click on the Canon photo professional. Click on the folder you downloaded to. If you need to do any white balance or exposure setting adjustments now is the time to do it. After that has been done you are ready. Click on the batch process. Select where you want the files to go and in what format. Tell it to start and walk away for awhile. Come back when its done. Make a back up on a dvd of the master files (raw files). Now you have the jpeg or tiff files to work with in PS. Just my way and I am sure there is a shorter and quicker way but that will come later in my learning curve. Maybe soon now that I have found this section of this forum.

Raw Shooter Essentials is available free on cdifoto's web site
http://www.cdifoto.com​/rse.php
It supports Canons up to and including the 30D and is definitely worth trying.

Time Thief wrote in post #3390347
I am very new to the raw files thing also so please take this with a grain of salt. What I have been doing is transfering my files to a folder. Go to the software that came with your 20D. Click on the Canon photo professional. Click on the folder you downloaded to. If you need to do any white balance or exposure setting adjustments now is the time to do it. After that has been done you are ready. Click on the batch process. Select where you want the files to go and in what format. Tell it to start and walk away for awhile. Come back when its done. Make a back up on a dvd of the master files (raw files). Now you have the jpeg or tiff files to work with in PS. Just my way and I am sure there is a shorter and quicker way but that will come later in my learning curve. Maybe soon now that I have found this section of this forum.

There is nothing wrong with what you are doing, but IMO (and many others) you should do as much as possible at the RAW stage. So any color, exposure, curves, etc adjustments (global adjustments, applied to the whole image) you are doing should be done in DPP. Then only do local adjustments in PS, ie spot removal, cloning, color adjustment with masks, etc.