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May 28, 2004 18:16 |  #1

Just to make things clear, I love my Digital Rebel, but I'm not IN love with it.
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Last year I had to shoot some pictures inside a fitness club with my G3.
It's a lighting nightmare because it has large curved windows all around the the gym, but because they face north, the interior of the gym is still quite dark. So it's tricky to get a picture where the gym equipment (mostly black) is exposed decently, but the windows are so overblown that the picture is totally ruined. No matter what you do, the windows are still exposed white, which is fine, but when it creeps over onto the walls and etc, the picture is ruined.
Anyway, shutter speeds were low, so I had to use a tripod. Then when I got home I had to combine 2 exposures to get a decent photo.

Well, today I had to reshoot some pictures using my Rebel!
Wow, what a difference. First of all I could hand hold the camera since I was able to use ISO400 and ISO800.
Secondly, when I got home and looked at the pictures, I was amazed at dynamic range. I didnt have to do any post processing at all, except add some saturation to my liking.
And since the exposures were bang on, there was virtually no noise, and I didnt have to use Noise Ninja at all, even on the ISO800 shots. Even at 100% the noise was hardly noticable, and like other times I found myself double checking the EXIF to make sure I actually was using 800.

Honestly, my G3 pictures at ISO50 had more noise because I had to increase exposure in the shadows.

Any way , I was so impressed I had to share.
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May 28, 2004 18:40 |  #2

What a difference huh? I felt the same after I shot the 10D, when I had been using my G2 previously. It's amazing. New cameras are great, aren't they? I just feel like a better person when I'm holding a 10D. No, I am a better person when I'm holding a 10D :mrgreen:


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May 28, 2004 18:58 |  #3

Yes, I agree, and the G series cameras are no slouches either.

When I first got my Rebel, it was my first SLR.
At first my pictures werent any better than those I shot with the G3, and in many cases they were worse.

However, using an SLR forces you to learn things you may not have with a P&S and I find I'm learning faster now with my Rebel than I did with my old P&S cameras.

Oh, and L glass helps too! :wink:
(however, I was shooting today with my only wide angle lens, the 18-55mm kit)


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May 28, 2004 21:47 |  #4

kool... I'm also getting a new Digital Rebel next month .. cant wait :D




  
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May 29, 2004 01:45 |  #5

i came from an a80 and i never really came out of ISO50
and i on the 300d now and use ISO100 whenever i can
and i used the 800-1600 this week and it's not too bad on noise
but man i was stopping street signs passing at 80mph
i couldn't believe it but they were grainy
but it did a nice job


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May 29, 2004 02:53 |  #6

I love my G3, and I keep it in the car. It is very convenient to have it whenever I want it. But I am most comfortable wielding an SLR. The image quality in difficult situations is a bonus, as well as the obvious ability to change lenses to get the perspective you want. No question, the Drebel rocks! :D


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May 29, 2004 09:32 |  #7

cOntrolz, if you shoot at at a high ISO, make sure the image is properly exposed, or even slightly overexposed. Then the noise is virtually gone.

Have a look at this picture shot at ISO800. No noise reduction at all.
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Here is a 100% crop.
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And those were shot in a dark theatre.
The pictures I took today in a relatively bright gymnasium had even less noise at ISO800.
I never hesitate to use ISO400-800 anymore. I find there is less noise than ISO100 on my G3.


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May 29, 2004 15:38 |  #8

look at that 6 pack on her

nice pic
and thanks for the hint
i'll give that a try


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May 29, 2004 16:42 |  #9

NP.

When I first got the camera, I had a tendency to underexpose the images, then I would just correct (since I shoot raw) with exposure compensatin in software (C1Pro).
However, the noise was pretty high.
I then learned here that to keep noise low it's better to shoot "to the right", that is, slightly overexpose without blowing out the highlights.
I was amazed at how low the noise levels were! Even properly exposed images are almost noise free at ISO400 and 800.

In the event that you ever do need noise reduction, I highly recommend Noise Ninja. It's the best I've used, even slightly better than Neat Image.
Noise Ninja is the only reduction software I've used that doesnt produce a weird "mottled", "cross-hatch" pattern when used on very noisy images.
It's also slightly faster than Neat Image.

However, since I've learned to properly expose my images, I have not touched the Ninja. :)


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May 29, 2004 17:27 |  #10

here are my results

Tv(Shutter Speed) 0.3
Av(Aperture Value) 5.6
Exposure Compensation 0
ISO Speed 800
Noise reduction Off

IMAGE NOT FOUND
HTTP response: 404 | MIME changed to 'text/html' | Byte size: ZERO



IMAGE NOT FOUND
HTTP response: 404 | MIME changed to 'text/html' | Byte size: ZERO


saweeeeeeeet
now the thing is
will this work while traveling at 80mph

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May 29, 2004 21:28 |  #11

Wow! Really nice!
Now dat's wut I'm talkin' 'bout.

Those were really ISO800? Even better than any I've shot.
What lens did you use? Does the kit lens actually let you get that close?

c0ntr0lz wrote:
now the thing is
will this work while traveling at 80mph

I'm not sure, but I dont think it would be safe taking a picture of a circuit board while driving 80 mph! :lol:


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May 29, 2004 23:16 |  #12

yeah that's the 18-55mm kit lens at ISO800 at 55mm and probably about 2-4 inches from the board

yeah that's not a very big piece but it's a nice shot
here it is taken with my a80
http://ctrlzproduction​.com/images/parts/boar​d10.jpg (external link)

HA HA funny one are you!!!
yeah i don't know if i'd be taking pix of a board but it'd be a great effect


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May 30, 2004 13:21 |  #13

What iso were you using with the a80?
400?


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Jun 16, 2004 04:32 |  #14

o man i didn't see your reply
sorry
nah i always went 50 on the a80


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Jun 16, 2004 04:51 |  #15

Hehe, your rebel iso800 shots have less noise than the a80 iso50 shots
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