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This is not a debate for sRGB vs. A1998 - but a workflow ? in Lightroom..

 
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Jun 18, 2007 18:18 |  #1

I am not here to debate what is better....But I have a question that arose from reading the lightroom manual...it states on page (43)...

"For good workflow, set up and export your Photoshop color space as ProPhoto. This procedure would work just as well for Adobe RGB (1998).
Use sRGB only as a final output for the web or for certain printing processes. Because of its small size, sRGB is not an optimal working color space for digital photos."

....does that mean that I should leave my PS color space as Adobe 1998 for 'bigger and more' colors while post processing, then at the very last step, assign the sRGB color profile for printing?

Does this make sense? Anyone have any input


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Jun 18, 2007 20:11 |  #2

https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=296149

It's a sticky, hope it helps...


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Jun 18, 2007 20:30 |  #3

It all sounds very complicated to me.

I don't think in reality, unless you're working at the very high end of advertising print (which will be done in CMYK in any event) that its worth adding a step like that to your work flow.

The way we work, is to calibrate all our equipment, including cameras, screens, printers, to a chosen colour space - Adobe RGB - and that's the end of it. Everything's set on that, and we capture, process and output all the same, whether its for RGB print or screen.

Again - getting yourself into a twist about colour space - especially for screen, is for the most part a waste of time, since unless your audience is in the creative industry themselves and regularly calibrate their screens, your work is a the mercy of whatever their monitors shipped with.

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Jun 18, 2007 20:37 |  #4

dzstudios:

If you're outputting to web (for a gallery, as an example) you want to output to sRGB, unless your intended audience is using a colormanaged web-browser (currently Apple's Safari is the only one (and its availalbe now for windows OR mac.)

If you export as AdobeRGB, ProPhotoRGB or another large colorspace the images will appear very visibly "washed out" in non-colormanaged browsers or applications. Generally this doesn't matter if the audience has calibrated their screens or not, sRGB will look better in most web-browsers.

AdobeRGB (or ProPhoto in LR) keeps more of your camera sensor's color gamut in tact, (esp. in blue's and greens, I think.) And if you are to an attatched printer that can take advantage of that, it may be preferable.

However,most labs prefer sRGB I believe; unless they specify differently in their write up.


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Jun 18, 2007 20:56 as a reply to  @ davidcrebelxt's post |  #5

I seeeeeeee. And thanks for a succinct explanation. I can't say that I've ever noticed a difference in our work -- but I'm certainly going to investigate!


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Jun 18, 2007 21:17 |  #6

xmacvicar wrote in post #3399923 (external link)
I am not here to debate what is better....But I have a question that arose from reading the lightroom manual...it states on page (43)...

"For good workflow, set up and export your Photoshop color space as ProPhoto. This procedure would work just as well for Adobe RGB (1998).
Use sRGB only as a final output for the web or for certain printing processes. Because of its small size, sRGB is not an optimal working color space for digital photos."

....does that mean that I should leave my PS color space as Adobe 1998 for 'bigger and more' colors while post processing, then at the very last step, assign the sRGB color profile for printing?

Does this make sense? Anyone have any input

This all depends on who does your printing. If you do all of your own printing then leave it in the Adobe RGB color space to print. If sending it out for print, use what your printer tells you to use. Definitely convert to sRGB for web display.

Now, how easy is that? ;)


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Jun 18, 2007 21:19 |  #7

dzstudios wrote in post #3400774 (external link)
I seeeeeeee. And thanks for a succinct explanation. I can't say that I've ever noticed a difference in our work -- but I'm certainly going to investigate!

No problem... I'm by no means an expert in this though, I'm still learning myself.

Here's a website, by the way that shows the difference between different ICC profiles on a webpage... unfortuantely they don't show the images side by side... but using Safari, when you roll over the images you can really see the difference it makes.:
http://www.gballard.ne​t …embeddedJPEGpro​files.html (external link)

Here's one with images side by side to see the difference (when using non-colormanaged browsers):

http://diglloyd.com …r/browsers-and-color.html (external link)


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Jun 20, 2007 07:07 |  #8

dzstudios wrote in post #3400774 (external link)
but I'm certainly going to investigate!

Quite a bit of reading and links in the sticky linked from my sig ;)


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