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Jun 28, 2007 20:36 |  #196

ok - xp didn't want to delete just the 1.1 upgrade portion, so I deleted the whole lightroom and reloaded. As expected, the reloaded 1.0 is working like a charm - thank goodness I regularly back-up the data base.

I think I will stop here for tonight as my stress level is finally coming down after screwing with this for a few hours. Again, thanks for the suggestions.


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Jun 28, 2007 20:46 as a reply to  @ buddy4344's post |  #197

Something else I just noticed. In the Develope Module if I hide the left panel adn edit an image, then go to a new image it unhides the left panel. Why? :confused:
Also, mine is not much faster after all. In fact I think it is slower. Ugh!


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Jun 29, 2007 00:41 |  #198

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Something else I just noticed. In the Develope Module if I hide the left panel adn edit an image, then go to a new image it unhides the left panel. Why? :confused:
Also, mine is not much faster after all. In fact I think it is slower. Ugh!

This reminds me of the problems when EMU introduced their high end sound cards. Many reported problems seemed to be common (a particular mobo or graphics card), but some were specific to a particular machine, or setup.

I tried the operation that causes your left panel to re-appear and couldn't duplicate it. This might be one of those problems.


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Jun 29, 2007 01:40 as a reply to  @ Glenn NK's post |  #199

u have problems with the old database

We're very concerned about database upgrade issues. We're aware of issues in the way 1.0 was using SQLite that made the database more fragile than we'd like and we've addressed those in 1.1. Of the issues we've seen so far where we have databases to look at the report is:


We've seen a case of a database failing to upgrade because it contained data that we did not create. Generally this would come from running other tools to examine or work with the database. Deleting the foreign data fixed the problem.

We've seen cases where issues in which the database actually failed the integrity check. We are looking for patterns with these and are working on tools to recover as much information as possible. In 1.1, we have tried to make these issues much less likely to occur by changing some of our SQLite usage.

We've seen one case where the database failed to upgrade because of a problem during the logic that looks for sidecar files. We are investigating this.

We've heard reports of people losing photos or virtual copies from the database during the upgrade. These are a puzzle to us because the upgrade largely just copies data from the old database to the new database and hence should either get everything or nothing. One thing to check is to make sure that images are not being filtered out via the filmstrip header or some other mechanism. For example, there is a new option in 1.1 to control whether or not virtual copies are shown. It's possible that the filter state is not getting initialized properly during the upgrade.

We take these issues all very seriously and are working both to make things more bullet proof and to provide better recovery options. In the meantime, we recommend:

Run integrity checks frequently.

If you crash, do not delete the journal file next to the database if there is one. Doing so will corrupt your database because the journal file is an integral part of SQLite's logic.

Do not use other tools to open the Lightroom database or if you feel you must, do not do so while Lightroom is running since competition for the database is a prime suspect in corruption.

If you've got a database that won't upgrade or where the upgrade seems to lose information, please save these and if we can't diagnose the problem directly, we will probably ask for copies of the database. (We don't need a copy of the preview cache.)

As we know more, we will provide more information. Thank you for your patience and your support of Lightroom.

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Jun 29, 2007 07:12 |  #200

Glenn NK wrote in post #3458029 (external link)
This reminds me of the problems when EMU introduced their high end sound cards. Many reported problems seemed to be common (a particular mobo or graphics card), but some were specific to a particular machine, or setup.

I tried the operation that causes your left panel to re-appear and couldn't duplicate it. This might be one of those problems.

It seems to only happen if you move to a new photo that has yet to be edited. It also expands the Presets section like they are expecting you to apply a preset.


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Jun 29, 2007 07:58 as a reply to  @ In2Photos's post |  #201

how many panels do u use (show up) in the DEVELOP module?


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Jun 29, 2007 08:15 as a reply to  @ mantra's post |  #202

When I'm in Develop I keep the filmstrip and the develop settings open. I don't need the library and folder panel on the left side and I don't need the bar at the top.


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Jun 29, 2007 08:57 |  #203

mantra wrote in post #3459136 (external link)
how many panels do u use (show up) in the DEVELOP module?

I typically hide all the panels, but sometimes the right panel is visible.

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When I'm in Develop I keep the filmstrip and the develop settings open. I don't need the library and folder panel on the left side and I don't need the bar at the top.

In the Develop module there is no Library and Folder sections. ;)


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Jun 29, 2007 09:03 |  #204

In2Photos wrote in post #3459380 (external link)
I typically hide all the panels, but sometimes the right panel is visible.

How the hell do you develop without the RH panel visible?


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Jun 29, 2007 09:07 |  #205

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How the hell do you develop without the RH panel visible?

It is called auto hide my friend. :p When I look at the image and see what I need I unhide the right panel by hovering over it, make my edits, and hide it again. I don't do it on all images though, just some. ;)


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Jun 29, 2007 09:10 |  #206

OK, I see what you mean.. but auto hide frustrates the hell out of me... ;) I use it for the filmstrip sometimes but that's all.


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Jun 29, 2007 09:21 |  #207

In2Photos wrote in post #3459380 (external link)
I typically hide all the panels, but sometimes the right panel is visible.

In the Develop module there is no Library and Folder sections. ;)

You are correct sir. I really menat the panel on the left side. ;)


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Jun 29, 2007 09:21 |  #208

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OK, I see what you mean.. but auto hide frustrates the hell out of me... ;) I use it for the filmstrip sometimes but that's all.

No, me likey auto hide. Even my taskbar is set to auto hide. I like to use all of my screen (maybe because it is only 19").


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Jun 29, 2007 09:22 |  #209

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You are correct sir. I really menat the panel on the left side. ;)

:lol: I know.


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Jun 29, 2007 09:40 |  #210

In2Photos wrote in post #3456993 (external link)
Also, mine is not much faster after all. In fact I think it is slower. Ugh!

Your right. I spent 4 hours fully testing it last night. 1.1 is noticeably slower when rendering CR2 file edits. The good news is that it is much faster than 1.0 with DNG files and the program itself runs much faster at least it does on my machine. Overall it is a stellar upgrade.


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