LR 1.1 Sharpening

EOSAddict wrote in post #3464205
From what I have seen so far, you need to use the sliders a lot harder (ie more to the right) than you would traditionally do with USM.... is that a reasonable assumption?

Yes, that is what I am finding also.

Maybe this is redundant... But as noted in another thread - you can only view the results of sharpening in 1:1 ratio. For me I have found that I can actually oversharpen the image by quite a lot...and there really is some power in this new sharpening tool. (That video tutorial at http://www.layersmagaz​ine.com/category/light​room/ was quite helpful for me.)

It took me awhile to realize, however, that you can actually see the results of sharpening if you hit E (full screen view of the photo). So when I'm in Develop mode, I can easily toggle back and forth between D and E to see the results of my sharpening.

You can use the little toggle in the upper left portion of the sharpening panel to turn it on/off as well...

it seems to work ok, but compared to photoshop yeah you have to really turn up those sliders

I'm a little underwhelmed by the sharpening, maybe it's because I've not 'mastered' it yet but I don't seem to get much satisfaction out of it. I held off from using 1.0 much due to this but I'm still doing basic processing in DPP with stunning sharpening results, then fine tuning/finishing in LR.

But on it's own the LR sharpening hasn't given me anything to rave about. Shame as I'd like to quit DPP and work import to export all in LR. DPP is just too useful for some things

EOSAddict wrote in post #3464205
From what I have seen so far, you need to use the sliders a lot harder (ie more to the right) than you would traditionally do with USM.... is that a reasonable assumption?

Canon recommends radius 0.3 amount 300% as a starting point for USM for input sharpening in order to restore latent lens sharpness lost in the anti-alias filtering in camera hardware. All of my images get this treatment at the beginning of workflow. If I need to compensate for problems (anti-alias is not a problem), I'll do additional sharpening, but try and avoid it.

Lightroom treats sharpening as a way to correct flaws, and 1.1, although it adds some controls, still doesn't get to Canon recommendations. Forcing workflow through CS2 for input sharpening doesn't make sense.

Am I missing something?

bcap wrote in post #3450111
Well, now that we have the equivalent (I think?) of USM in Lightroom, what are your thoughts on it?

What are you finding for some generic optimal settings?

What? When in the hell did this happen? What did I miss?

v1.1 Ed, wake up!

howfly wrote in post #3503035
Canon recommends radius 0.3 amount 300% as a starting point for USM for input sharpening in order to restore latent lens sharpness lost in the anti-alias filtering in camera hardware. All of my images get this treatment at the beginning of workflow. If I need to compensate for problems (anti-alias is not a problem), I'll do additional sharpening, but try and avoid it.

Lightroom treats sharpening as a way to correct flaws, and 1.1, although it adds some controls, still doesn't get to Canon recommendations. Forcing workflow through CS2 for input sharpening doesn't make sense.

Am I missing something?

Certainly don't take my word for it but it seems to me that a 1.0 radius and 150 amount is not the same in LR and PS.

PS's USM is not the same as LR's Sharpen.

There are two sharpening pre-sets in the left hand pop-up box. One is for portaits and the other for landscapes. I find that using the protrait one for portraits and the landscape for just about everything else gives me a good starting point to work from. The portrait pre-set applies a mask that prevents sharpening of surface defects such as skin blemishes.

ScottE wrote in post #3509391
There are two sharpening pre-sets in the left hand pop-up box. One is for portaits and the other for landscapes. I find that using the protrait one for portraits and the landscape for just about everything else gives me a good starting point to work from. The portrait pre-set applies a mask that prevents sharpening of surface defects such as skin blemishes.

Don't know where I've been - I never noticed that until you mentioned it and I went looking.

Thanks for the tip.

Maybe I should look around more.

EOSAddict wrote in post #3508398
v1.1 Ed, wake up!

I've been out of the loop for quite a while.

Another new video on sharpening here:
http://www.lightroomki​llertips.com …deo-tip-sharpening-in-11/

So far LR 1.1 is not up to par with Raw Shooter which is what Adobe have supposedly incorporated into LR?

Rawshooter is my prefered tool for sharpening