LR 1.1 Sharpening

Well, now that we have the equivalent (I think?) of USM in Lightroom, what are your thoughts on it?

What are you finding for some generic optimal settings?

Anyone?

I'm interested too. As someone who left sharpening at the default setting in both RSP and LR 1.0 and never had an issue, I'm keen to know if I can just leave it as is .... or do I have to tweak it for every image... adding to my workflow time.

I haven't even updated yet but my plan is to have presets for various settings and apply them based on each photo. I will likely incorporate some kind of default though to use during Import with my other settings.

I'm hoping to skip putting my photos into PS just to do the final sharpening, and do everything in LR.

Anke wrote in post #3453254
I'm hoping to skip putting my photos into PS just to do the final sharpening, and do everything in LR.

Yes, me too. Although I believe I read somewhere that the sharpening in Lr is more of a capture sharpening than and output sharpeneing. Has anyone heard anything different? How is it applied during conversion? First or last? Before or after resizing?

I wonder what Kelby has to offer about sharpening in his PDF.

The sharpening in LR, just like ACR, is intended to be Capture Sharpening, as recommended by Bruce Fraser. That said, many people will use it as a one-stop-shop now it has much greater control, and I do the same in many cases (running into Photoshop usually only for huge images, problem images, or really special images).

I can't say for sure, as I've never actually checked, but on the basis that you set your sharpening at 1:1 view, I would assume that the sharpening is applied to the full resolution image before it is then resized, profile converted, and saved as your file format.

Presumably too, the numbers used in LR's sharpening tool is not the same as USM in PS. For instance the LR sharpening amount only goes up to 150 and the radius cannot go below 0.5.

Anke, I noticed that as well. Radius only goes up to 3 in LR where as USM's radius goes much higher than that.

Not only are the numbers different, but so are the technicalities behind it. So forget any old numbers, and start playing from scratch.

Victoria Bampton wrote in post #3453482
Not only are the numbers different, but so are the technicalities behind it. So forget any old numbers, and start playing from scratch.

That was my fear. Half of me wants to just wait until someone comes up with some presets and continue to use PS for my sharpening.

Read my mind

Anke wrote in post #3453516
That was my fear. Half of me wants to just wait until someone comes up with some presets and continue to use PS for my sharpening.

Anke wrote in post #3453516
That was my fear. Half of me wants to just wait until someone comes up with some presets and continue to use PS for my sharpening.

Ah, where is the fun in that.

In2Photos wrote in post #3453281
Although I believe I read somewhere that the sharpening in Lr is more of a capture sharpening than an output sharpening.

Anyone care to help a noob out and explain what this means? The difference between capture sharpening and output sharpening?

I assume that the sharpening required for web output would be different than for a 20x30 print (correct?). But what is the purpose of sharpening during capture if it needs to be re-sharpened for output and how would it be different?

Thanks for your help, hope this wasn't too dumb of a question.

mabas9395 wrote in post #3453740
Anyone care to help a noob out and explain what this means? The difference between capture sharpening and output sharpening?

I assume that the sharpening required for web output would be different than for a 20x30 print (correct?). But what is the purpose of sharpening during capture if it needs to be re-sharpened for output and how would it be different?

Thanks for your help, hope this wasn't too dumb of a question.

Not a dumb quetion at all.

Capture sharpening is done to eliminate the softness caused by the AA (anti-alias) filter on digital cameras. It is simply to get back what was once taken away.

Ouput sharpening is the last step in your workflow and depening on your output you may apply different amounts or types of sharpening.

More reading (and excellent PS scripts) here:

http://www.thelightsri​ghtstudio.com …onalSharpeningT​oolkit.htm